There is also the possibility that lutes with more courses can still be used for music that requires less. I doubt that piccinini played his passacaglia only on a seven course lute just because the music doesn't need more. On that note-- I think the liuto attorbato is perhaps the most versatile of all lutes. One can play pretty much the entire lute repertory on it. I have had mine tuned in every conceivable tuning- from d minor to tiorbino and theorbo. I'm not saying it's not better to use the correct lute for the job. This is why we love to have as many lutes as possible. Sterling
Sent from my iPad > On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Andreas Schlegel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Old lutes are most usually a puzzle of parts of different times. Exactly the > same, if you have a close look on the books of Piccinnini and Kapsberger: > They published pieces for different instruments (perhaps, but not certainly > written in different times) for people with different instruments at home. > We can see that "old" types like the 11-course Baroque lute were in use for a > long time after the invention/development of a new type - here the 13-course > Baroque lute (f.ex. Kellner's print for 11-course lute in 1747). Why not the > same game in the beginning of the 17th century? > The 11-course tiorba is used in 109 pieces by Kapsberger - and 71 pieces > require only 10 course, 6 9 courses, 3 8 courses, 8 7 courses and 1 6 courses > [!] - so totally 199 of 237 tiorba pieces by Kapsberger are written for an > instrument with 11-courses. Who has such an instrument at home? Does it > existed in the 17th century or had they from the very first moment of the > development the final 14-course - excuse: 19-course - tiorba at home > (Kapsberger published 10 pieces for 19-course tiorba in 1612, 1626 and 1640 > editions)? > In the beginning of the 17th century the individual construction of lute > types arised - after the uniform construction before and the "Füssen Kartell" > (see the studies of Klaus Martius & Josef Focht). > Have a look on all the pictures of that time and you will find our nowadays > "standard" types - but also a big number of instruments with more individual > features. > > Andreas > >> Am 02.09.2015 um 09:13 schrieb Martin Shepherd <[email protected]>: >> >> Yes - the same is true of Kapsberger, some pieces require fewer courses. I >> suppose these collections of pieces were often made over a period of time, >> and by the time they were published some of them were, as Dowland says of >> the songs in his first book, "ripe enough by their age". >> >> If I remember correctly Piccinini's trio requires only 7 courses on all the >> lutes, and presumably dates from when he was playing with his brothers in >> the 1580s. He was an old man by the time his book was published in 1623. >> Strange to think he was an exact contemporary of Dowland. >> >> Martin >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Shchenikov" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "lute list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:38 AM >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Piccinini >> >> >>> Though Piccinini describes 13 course lute in his 1623 preface, I know >>> at least two pieces, asking just for 7 cources. Corrente V (1st book) >>> and famous Passacaglia (2nd book). May be there is another examples, >>> but haven't played all Piccinini pieces through. >>> >>> 2015-09-01 22:11 GMT+04:00 Konstantin Shchenikov >>> <[email protected]>: >>>> Though Piccinini describes 13 course lute in his 1623 preface, I know at >>>> least two pieces, asking just for 7 cources. Corrente V (1st book) and >>>> famous Passacaglia (2nd book). May be there is another examples, but >>>> haven't >>>> played all Piccinini pieces through. >>> >>> >>> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > Andreas Schlegel > Eckstr. 6 > CH-5737 Menziken > +41 (0)62 771 47 07 > [email protected] > > > > > --
