I have been restoring an early square piano by Chickering
circa 1840.  In my communications with other piano techs
and research, I have found that pitch, even in the 19th century,
varied wildly.  The 1840 Chickering, one of the very first pianos
to incorporate a full cast metal plate, was designed to be tuned
at AC0.  By the 1870's pitch had risen to as high as 465!
And, of course, it was different in Europe than in the US.
  There is a LOT of mis-information in the AC2 arguments,
including that it was the Nazis who insisted on 440.  NOT TRUE.
American standard pitch for pianos was set at 440 in 1916, and
all pianos with full (not victorian) cast plates have been designed
in the US to be tuned at AD0 ever since.
  There has always been a quest for brighter and louder tone.
Increasing string tension does this.  But is happens with wind
instruments as well.  Scottish Highland Pipes were at one time
pitched in A, and over a few hundred years been raised to Bb.
  So - just tune your lute 'til your (gut) 1st string breaks, all the
while looking at a meter, then back it off 1 Hz.  I'm sure it will be
resonant with the cosmos :)

Tom Draughon
Heartistry Music
www.heartistry.com
714 9th Ave. W.
Ashland, WI  54806
715-682-9362




On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Leonard Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> A late response to this thread, but I found this discussion/article;
>
> http://www.viewzone.com/432hertz222.html
>
> Not all that scientific, I don't think, but there's information to think
> about.
>
> Regards,
> Leonard Williams
>
> On 12/12/15, 12:21 PM, "Edward Martin" <[email protected] on
> behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Nice article, Ron.
>>  I agree, in that there is no definitive pitch.   We seem to have
>>  settled on 440 vs. 415 as standards of modern vs baroque, but what
>>  about 460, or 392?   With the lute, a few sources state to tune the
>>  treble to just before it breaks, and that is where one starts.
>>  I am wondering, has anybody on the list read some of the arguments
>>  about changing the modern pitch standard as a + 432?
>>  ed
>>
>>  On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Ron Andrico <[1][email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>     We have posted our Saturday morning quotations, this week on pitch
>>     standards.
>>     [1][2]http://wp.me/p15OyV-1qB
>>     Ron & Donna
>>     --
>>  References
>>     1. [3]http://wp.me/p15OyV-1qB
>>  To get on or off this list see list information at
>>  [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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>> References
>>
>>  1. mailto:[email protected]
>>  2. http://wp.me/p15OyV-1qB
>>  3. http://wp.me/p15OyV-1qB
>>  4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>
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