The "Puffy Hunton" piece is another gem.
And dates of Roy. App. 58 being ~1530. First quarter, almost :)
Many thanks for the exqc. info on dumps Ron :)
G.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
No, the Lady Carey of the eponymous dump predates the later puffy
Hunsdon female by probably 50 years or so. And no, the same piece
does
not appear in the Marsh lute ms. Here is a list of pieces titled
"dump" from John Ward,"The "Dolfull Domps", Journal of the
American
Musicological Society, Vol. 4, No. 2 (Summer, 1951), pp. 111-121.
1. "My lady Carey's dompe," for keyboard. British Museum, Ms. Royal
Appendix 58, ff. 44v-45v. Reprinted in Historical Anthology of
Music,
ed. Davison and Apel, No. 103.
2. "The Duke of Somersett's dompe," for lute. Ibid., ff. 51v-52.
3. "Pover man's doumpe,"'6f or lute. Ibid., f. 55. Reprinted in
William
Chappell's Old English Popular Music, rev. by H. E. Wooldridge
(London,
1893), Vol. I, p. 221.
4. "Duke of Millans dump," for lute. Cambridge University Library,
Ms.
Dd. 2.11, f. IV.
5. "J[ohn]: Johnsons 1. Dump," for lute. Cambridge University
Library,
Ms. Dd.3.18, f. 3.
6. "J[ohn]: Johnsons 2. Dump," for lute. Ibid., ff. 3-4.
7. "Militis dumpe," for lute. British Museum, Add. Ms. 31392, ff.
16v-17.
8. "A Dumpe" [= "Militis dumpe"],8 for lute. Folger Shakespeare
Library, Ms.448.16, ff. I2-13v.
9. "Queene Maries dumpe," for lute. Folger Shakespeare Library, Ms.
1610.1, f. 1.
10. "Quene Mariees Dump," for lute. Trinity College, Dublin, William
Ballet's lute book, pp. 4-5.
11. "Queen Maries Dumpe," a single bass [viol? ] part. British
Museum,
Add. Ms. 15118, f. 30v.
I2. "The Irishe Dumpe," for keyboard. Fitzwilliam Virginal Book, p.
297. Reprinted in the edition by Fuller-Maitland and Barclay Squire
(Leipzig, 1899), Vol. II, p. 236.
13. "The Queen of Bohemia's Dumpe,"for keyboard. New York Public
Library, Drexel Ms. 5609, p. 122.
14. "J. W. Dumpe," for keyboard. Ibid., p. 156.
15. "An Irish Dump,"an instrumental tune. Printed in Smollet
Holden's A
Collection of Old Established Irish Slow and Quick Tunes (Dublin,
ca.
1806-07). Reprinted in Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians,
3rd
ed. (New York, 1938), Vol. II, p. 109.
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From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
behalf
of G. C. <[4]kalei...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:24 PM
To: Lex van Sante
Cc: lute mailing list list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: My Lady Careys Dompe
Yes, I'm unfortunately most probably mistaken with that fast and
unchecked remark, as my only source was:
[1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh-xLdCy_-Q
and we all know how trustworthy that media is. Silly of me.
Checked
McFeely and found a few unspesified dumps in Marsh but none
specific.
Sorry, for probably being mistaken by wrong attributions!
G.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Lex van Sante
<[2][6]lvansa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
@ G.C.
I have tried to find it in Marsh a long time ago but to no
avail.
On which page can I find it?
Lex
> Op 22 feb. 2017, om 12:08 heeft Ron Andrico
<[3][7]praelu...@hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Sterling:
>
> The piece is available in tablature from the Lute Society
in
a
> tablature supplement circa 2000. Contact Chris
Goodwin,
since
I
> believe he made the arrangement.
>
> RA
>
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> Subject: [LUTE] My Lady Careys Dompe
>
> Hi all--
> I am looking for My Lady Careys Dompe as played by
Paul
O'Dette on
> the
> Royal Lewters cd. Gathering from the liner notes I
think
it
is
> Paul's
> arrangement of the harpsichord version. Any ideas?
> Thanks--
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[3]MY LADY CAREY'S DUMP (Marsh Lutebook)
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Dump (anglais) : Genre instrumental anglais pour luth ou clavier
en
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