See http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/showcase/preview/232 for Fandango support of Angelique tablature - this is based on the Monin book (the first piece...). If someone needs the other styles of diapason notation for the Angelique, they should ask for it specifically... The Angelique implementation will not be available until the next release of the software at some point within the coming 10 days. Matthias, this could give you a little bit of time to ask for adjustments - I included the facsimile of the transcribed piece in the PDF.

Happy memorial day,

Alain


On 05/27/2017 10:11 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote:
Hi Alain,

Yes, there are two major manuscript sources and one print available online.
The manuscript sources are:nn

1. The anonymous tablature for the angélique A 3.329, preserved in the Moravian 
museum in Brno (Smetanova 14, 602 00 Brno):
http://www.manuscriptorium.com/apps/index.php?envLang=en#search (search word: 
tabulatura angeliku)

2. Marguerite Monin's lute book. Folios 1r to 23v contain music for the 
angélique.
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503663g

The print is Jakob Kremberg's Musicalische Gemüths-Ergötzung (Dresde, 1689): 
http://imslp.org/wiki/Musicalische_Gem%C3%BCths-Erg%C3%B6tzung_(Kremberg,_Jakob)
 – with his exceptional characters for the bass courses.

Mathias



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag 
von Alain Veylit
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 18:31
An: 'Lute net'
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

Thank you Mathias for this useful detail,

Except for the 17th string, it should be fairly easy to implement - one last 
request if you can, do you happen to have a link handy to a digital facsimile 
of angelique tablature? If not, I'll do my own digging, but you are more 
knowledgeable than I am and might pick a better sample for checking purposes.

Alain


On 05/27/2017 03:28 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote:
Hi Alain,
the angélique is strung with 16 single strings. Ten are on the fretboard and 
six are bourdons. The pitches are as follows:

1st = e5
2nd = d5
3rd = c5
4th = b4
5th = a4
6th = g4
7th = f4
8th = e4
9th = d4
10th = c4
11th = b3
12th = a3
13th = g3
14th = f3
15th = e3
16th = c3

The strings are retuned as from the 4th to the 15th courses according to key. 
The 16th string is sometimes retuned to D or Bb respectively, according to key, 
but more often than not stays at C.

The characters for the first six courses are the same as in lute tablature. 
Angélique tablature has six lines and rhythm signs just like baroque lute 
tablature. The characters for the courses below the staff are as follows:

7th = a
8th = _a_ (underlined)
9th = /a
10th = //a
11th = ///a
12th = ////a
13th = /////a
14th = 4
15th = 5
16th = 6

The 7th to 10th courses, too, are frequently fretted up to the 4th fret, so 
characters a to e are required for them. The 11th to 16th courses are not 
fretted.

One single manuscript (Schwerin 640) requires a 17th string so that one may 
have D and C at the same time. That manuscript shows the Arabic numerals 7 to 
17 for the bass courses below the staff instead of lute tablature characters.

Another exceptional source (Jakob Kremberg, 40 airs, Dresde 1689) shows the 
following characters for the bass courses below the staff:

7th = a
8th = _a_ (underlined)
9th = /a
10th = //a
11th = ///a
12th = 4
13th = 5
14th = 6
15th = 7
16th = 8

Mathias



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Alain Veylit [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 09:29
An: Mathias Rösel
Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

Hi Mathias,

Sounds feasible - but my German is rusty ... what was the tuning of the angelique and 
what is the meaning of the underlined a and /////a?  I would have jumped to the 
conclusion that ////a was equivalent to a "4"
diapason in lute tablature, but you give 5 slashes (not 4): /////a.
Sorry for my ignorance, I hope you can help me fill up the gaps.

I have seen some facsimiles of music for the angelique, but thought it was very 
much the same as tablature for lute and did not really research that topic 
further.

Alain



On 05/26/2017 02:56 PM, Mathias Rösel wrote:
Organ tablature was in use for any instrument and even for singers, as it is a 
pitch notation.

It may be much easier to expand lute tablature to the much desired
tablature for the angélique (see
http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.html
Notation der Basschöre), for which not more than two additional
characters are required: _a_ (underlined) and /////a

Mathias



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im
Auftrag von Alain Veylit
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Mai 2017 20:20
An: Lute net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

I started implementing keyboard tablature in my software Fandango,
but the need is so little and editing so complicated that I did not
really complete it fully. German Keyboard tab is like German tab in
that groups of notes hang from the top line, but letters indicate
pitch rather than fret position, using the A-H alphabetical sequence.
Additionally, there are two types of rhythm flags: one at the top
similar to lute tablature flags, and individual flags for notes
within a chord indicating how long that specific note is sustained.
Tablature was usually reserved for the left hand, while the top part
was in regular notation (as shown in the video). Various systems were
used to indicate which octave the note belonged to: A, a, a' or ''a,
or lines over the note. The system is logically simple but a real
challenge to read, particularly when you add messy hand-writing using
old German characters...  (Buxtehude comes to mind)

I thinks is the same system was used for harp tablature - as in the ap Huw MS - 
the main advantage being to indicate which note is played with which hand.

For another mixed system notation/tablature, see modern accordion
tablature:
http://www.accordeondiatonique.fr/comment-lire-une-tablature-accordeo
n
-diatonique/

Spanish keyboard tablature was completely different if I recall...
using numbers corresponding to the keys on the keyboard. See
http://www.organ.byu.edu/Bush_Library/Bush%20Files/Buxheimer%20Orgelb
u
ch/Tablature%20notes.pdf

A fascinating and very arcane subject.  I am not sure what the advantage of a-h 
notation for the left hand may have been, but that system did survive for a 
couple centuries...  Quicker to jot down perhaps?

Alain


On 05/26/2017 06:03 AM, keith barnhart wrote:
       Hello Rainer,

       I read German lute tab but not keyboard (yet!). I am fascinated by the
       system for sure although it is very hard to understand. Here is a short
       primer video that I found which doesn't explain in full but might start
       to help.

[1]https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/from-ink-to-sound/1/steps/511
9
3

       Also, I would be happy to take a swing at a small piece to get some
       experience working in it if you want.

       Best,

       Keith

       On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:09 AM Rainer <[2][email protected]>
       wrote:

         Dear lute netters,
         I would like to check a concordance which is in (shudder) German
         keyboard tablature.
         Can anybody read it?
         Rainer
         PS
         I have everything as digital facsimile
         To get on or off this list see list information at
         [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

       --

       Keith Barnhart
       Little Piggy Productions LLC
       [4]little-piggy.com
       303-917-4302

       --

References

       1. https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/from-ink-to-sound/1/steps/51193
       2. mailto:[email protected]
       3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
       4. http://little-piggy.com/








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