Demonstrably, Zamboni was old tuning.
   But Zarlino in mid 17th means, they thought that his music theory was
   still highly applicable. I thought they had abandoned hexachords and
   modes and musica ficta by then. So what happened to the musica nova.
   Isn't it all a bit anachronistic?
   G.

   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com>
   wrote:

        It's yet one more among the many popular misconceptions that each
     and
        every lutenist played only d-minor tuned lutes by the mid-17th
        century.   The "renaissance" tuning was still in common use in
     France as
        evidenced by the publications of airs de cour.   In Italy, the
     old
        tuning seems to have persisted even longer, and references to
     "liuto"
        appear to have meant a six- or seven-course lute in old tuning.
     As far
        as I can tell, all of these popular misconceptions were created
     by
        20th-century academics in an attempt to cram random information
     into
        easily teachable categories.
        RA
          ____________________________________________________________
     ______
        From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
     on behalf
        of G. C. <[4]kalei...@gmail.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:48 PM
        To: Lute List
        Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties
     des
        Institutions harmoniques

         What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on
   a
         renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino in anno
   1654
      a
         100 years after pub. I thought everyone had gone over to the
   other
      side
         by then! :)
         G.
         On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
         <[1][5]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
         Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to
      their
         instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one
   century
         after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
         Best,
         Jean-Marie
         > Le 8 aoà »t 2017 à   21:24, G. C. <[2][6]kalei...@gmail.com> a
   Ã ©crit :
         >
         >     This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl.
   so
         these
         >     are examples...
         >     The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the
   italian
         print did
         >     a monumental work!
         >     G.
         >
         >     On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
         >     <[1][3][7]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
         >
         >       The tablature is just the transcription of the notated
   parts,
         note
         >       for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional
         processes
         >       of the time (mid-17th century)...
         >       Jean-Marie
         >       --------------
         >
         >>     Hi
         >>     has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in
      french),
         >     or
         >>     even read the whole thing?
         >>     [1][2][4][8]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
         >>     G.
         >>
         >>     --
         >>
         >> References
         >>
         >>     1. [3][5][9]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
         >>
         >>
         >> To get on or off this list see list information at
         >> [4][6][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
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         >
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         >
         > References
         >
         >     1. mailto:[7][11]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
         >     2. [8][12]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
         >     3. [9][13]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
         >     4. [10][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
   edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
         >
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      References

           1. [1]mailto:[15]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
           2. [2]mailto:[16]kalei...@gmail.com
           3. [3]mailto:[17]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
           4. [4][18]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
           5. [5][19]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
           6. [6][20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
     edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
           7. [7]mailto:[21]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
           8. [8][22]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
           9. [9][23]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
          10. [10][24]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
     edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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   References
      1. mailto:[25]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
      2. mailto:[26]kalei...@gmail.com
      3. mailto:[27]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
      4. [28]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
      5. [29]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
      6. [30]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
      7. mailto:[31]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
      8. [32]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
      9. [33]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
     10. [34]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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References

   1. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   3. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   4. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
   5. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   6. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
   7. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   8. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   9. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  11. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  12. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  13. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  15. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  16. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
  17. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  18. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  19. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  20. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  21. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  22. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  23. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  24. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  25. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  26. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
  27. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  28. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  29. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  30. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  31. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  32. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  33. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  34. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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