Dear Markus,

I'm glad the differences weren't greater!

I've taken mine from either my own measurements or the various paper plans issued. Michael Fleming did an interesting comparison of different measurements from different professional makers of the same viols and found significant differences. His conclusion was that total accuracy was a chimera.

However we should all try!

Best wishes,

David

At 11:38 +0200 6/10/17, Markus Lutz wrote:
The measurements I refer to stem from the new book "Martin und Johann Christian Hoffmann" by Eszter Fontana, Veit Heller and Klaus Martius, page 315.

They list up 7 supposedly historic bridges, width of strings (MH = Martin Hoffmann, JCH = Johann Christian Hoffmann):
MH 9 Nürnberg 169[?]    13c 139mm (DvE: 142)
JCH 3 Brüssel 1716      11c 123mm
JCH 6 Leipzig 1720/32   14c 154mm (DvE: 153)
JCH 21 Brüssel 1730     13c 140mm (DvE: 142)
JCH 29 London, undat.   13c 147mm (DvE: 148)
JCH 38 Berlin, undat.   13c 146mm (DvE: 145)
JCH R7 Kopenhagen 1741  13c 149mm

There seem to be slight differences between Dave's and Klaus's measurements (DvE = Dave van Edwards; I tried to give the measurements here for comparison) ...

.. and btw - I would say, it should be an easy task for any lutemaker to exchange a bridge, if it is too small or too big ,-).

Best regards
Markus


Am 06.10.2017 um 11:14 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier:
According to David Van Ewdwards measurements, here are the results for lutes by the Hoffmanns :

HOFFMANN, JC c. 1754 Horniman Museum 148 HOFFMANN, J C c. 1720 Berlin, No. 129 29 145
HOFFMANN,  J C             c. 1720  London,  Horniman 1975 506 LAB 4792 148
HOFFMANN, J C 1720 Leipzig 506 153 HOFFMANN, Martin 169. Nurnberg GNM MI 245 142 HOFFMANN, J. C. 1730 Brussels, Musée Instrumental M 3188 142 HOFFMANN, J. C. 1720 Paris CNSM E 529 146 HOFFMANN, J. C. Leningrad /St. Petersburg 1346 145 HOFFMANN, Martin 169? Nürnberg MI 245 142

I have a copy of Martin Hoffmann's lute from the Nurnberg museum and I asked for a wider bridge at 155 because I like to have some space between courses !
It's all amatter of personal preference indeed !

All the best,
Jean-Marie


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Hi Roman,
140mm is definitely in the range of the historic bridges of the Hoffmann
lutes, which have widths between 139 mm (MH 9) and 149 mm (JCH R 7).
The baroque lute of Le Luth Dore also has 140mm, which is - in my very
personal opinion - really good to handle.

But as Matthew said, that is really a personal preference. And indeed it
is necessary to try that for yourself.

Best regards
Markus




Am 06.10.2017 um 10:20 schrieb Matthew Daillie:
That is a personal preference, Roman, as it must have been at the time considering the great variation in historic bridge spans.
Best,
Matthew


On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:39, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote:

140mm bridge width? Caveat emptor.
RT



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