I would like to say something in matter. The nylon for music is not the same for fishing line, whose density is around 1.16. The density of the common musical nylon is 1.04 and it is a 6-12 polyamide. The du pont brand name is Tynex but it can be processed in Monofilaments everywhere. The density is not enough to define a sound quality. Another very important parameter is the elasticity or young modulus. It must be not too high, nor too low. The second parameter that nobody mentioned but it is actually the most important on the nylon family is the moisture absorbition. on the nylon for fishing line is very high. This explain why this kind of Nylon, whose density is higher than tynex is useless like musical string. Nylgut density is 1.35; pvdf (so called carbon ) is 1.78. These values are the correct ones. Take care Mimmo
> Il giorno 31 ott 2017, alle ore 21:05, Tristan von Neumann > <[email protected]> ha scritto: > > > Let's talk numbers here. > > Nylon is 1140 kg/m³, Durablend is 1150, gut is 1276 (Nylgut: 1260) and > Fluorocarbon is 1790. > (according to Karstilo's String Calculator) > > This means that Nylon/Durablend are *a lot* closer to actual gut or nylgut > that Fluorocarbon is. > How it feels and sounds is another discussion, but tension is calculated on > this basis, right? > > >> Am 31.10.2017 um 20:30 schrieb Dan Winheld: >> Actually, Nylon is a lot less dense than gut. To equal the tension of a .42 >> gut treble I need to go up to a .475 diameter in Nylon. And about .36 or .37 >> in Fluorocarbon, (which is why I almost never use it for trebles- getting >> like a bad steel string in sound & feel, although not of course in tension. >> Only of my instruments sounds/feels good with the Fluorocarbon treble). >> Looking forward to trying out the fishing line. Maye I will reel in some >> interesting sounds! >> Dan >>> On 10/31/2017 11:21 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: >>> It's much less dense than Fluorocarbon. >>> And only a little less dense than actual gut or nylgut. You will end up >>> with similar, just a bit thicker diameters than those. >>> Careful: They take a long time to settle (more than a week). >>> >>> >>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Anthony Glass: >>>> So...is nylon more or less dense than fluorocarbon? I've never used >>>> nylon on a lute, only nylgut and PVF. >>>> Thanks! >>>> TG >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Dan Winheld <[1][email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Very cool discovery! Thanks. Could it be some form of the stuff >>>> referred to as "Carbon" or "Flourocarbon"- the KF (in gauges up >>>> to.91) made by Savarez? >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On 10/31/2017 6:55 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Lutist "cheapskates", >>>> I just got the information from the factory who produce KastKing >>>> Durablend fishing line (available in 0.4-1.4mm) - specific weight is >>>> 1150 kg/m ³ so it's a bit more dense than usual Nylon. >>>> So if there's anyone out there needing a cheap string replacement >>>> and don't like the Flourocarbon stuff, buy those- >>>> It's quite transparent though, but has a nice sound. Ask for sound >>>> samples if you're interested. >>>> Cheers, >>>> T* >>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> References >>>> >>>> 1. mailto:[email protected] >>>> 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > >
