Thank you Alain,
Incidentally, the mandora player referred to by Molitor may have been
Joseph Zincke (or Zinck) rather than Scheidler - but who knows?
Martyn
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From: Alain Veylit <al...@musickshandmade.com>
To: lutelist Net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2017, 18:02
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stringing Question (German Lute)
Here is a little more info and some transcriptions of music for guitar
by Scheidler:
[1]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/collections/preview/75 -
On 12/08/2017 04:26 AM, Markus Lutz wrote:
> The last professional mandora player (also the last lute player)
> probably had been Johann Christian Gottlieb Scheidler, who was born
on
> the 26.11.1747 (260 years ago) in Aken (Elbe) and died on the 15th
> August 1829 in Mainz. He was son of the lutenist and soldier Johann
> Reinhard Scheideler.
> But probably he didn't play after around 1815, as he was quite ill
then.
>
> Best regards
> Markus
>
>
> Am 08.12.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Martyn Hodgson:
>> These instruments were developed in the late nineteenth century
as a
>> lute shaped guitar to give a sort of historical depth to the
late
>> romantic notion of players being like early travelling minstrels
and
>> the like. Accordingly string your instrument like a nineteenth
>> century
>> guitar ie gut for strings one to three and overwound for the
rest.
>> There's also some evidence that they may have a link to the
>> historical
>> mandora/gallichon: but this is more tenuous since the last
recorded
>> professional mandora player died around 1810 - but it's possible
the
>> instrument continued to be played by amateurs and contributed to
the
>> development of the wandervogel instrument.
>> MH
>> >> Betreff: [LUTE] Stringing Question (German Lute)
>> >> Datum: 2017-11-30T19:58:23+0100
>> >> Von: "Tristan von Neumann" <[1][2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>
>> >> An: "lutelist Net" <[2][3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>> >>
>> >> Hi there,
>> >>
>> >> I'm currently repairing my old German Lute (6x1, 62cm),
>> previously
>> >> decorative only. Some ribs have come apart. I managed one
>> connection
>> >> already.
>> >> I noticed that it has very thin ribs (about 1-1.5mm), however
the
>> >> soundboard is quite thick judging at the rose (about 4-5mm).
>> >> There is one leftover string attached on the 4th course, it
seems
>> >> contemporary and is wound metal.
>> >> The lute has a one piece carved pegbox with ornamented back
plate
>> and
>> >> flowerhead, and mechanical pegs. The fingerboard has metal
frets
>> with
>> >> arches in between. The strings are attached with wooden pins
into
>> holes
>> >> in the bridge.
>> >> It seems about 100 years old. No maker's plate is visible
>> inside the
>> bowl.
>> >> After having it in ok condition I plan to string it -- what
would
>> you
>> >> suggest? Metal or nylon (in the latter case I'll use my
fishing
>> line)?
>> >> Is there a way to tell if it was metal or gut strung?
>> >> Personally I would prefer metal for more cittern-like sound,
>> unless
>> >> anyone advises strongly against it.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Tristan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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