Dudes... I just tried to play some Diomedes Cato pieces from this amazing collection... That's incredible stuff, I had shyed away from it, but it was really worth trying.
What was he on when he wrote this?
Vodka? Or did they also smoke weed?...
It's like Alberto on steroids. Lots of colouring and beautiful entries, using the whole scope of what you can fret on a lute, but always in a hand-friendly way (for pros, not for me). The "Prélude des Préludes", despite being the first piece, seems to be a statement in title, similar to the "Ultimate Passamezzo" of Terzi... (a piece which is really worth a look by the way, if you like quirky stuff). This is the Mother of Preludes.



Am 02.02.2018 um 22:31 schrieb Tristan von Neumann:
In England it seems there were already stoners, I heard that Henry VIII. fined farmers if they grow weed to smoke instead of selling it as industrial resource. I don't know if that's true.

But then there's this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/UK/03/01/shakespeare.cannabis/

I'd rather be stoned than hammered :)


Am 02.02.2018 um 17:35 schrieb John Mardinly:
    Wasn't Dowland fired by King Christian of Denmark for being drunk all
    the time? Could it be then considered that playing ‘stoned' was more
    ‘authentic'?

    A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
    The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
    Francisco Goya

    On Feb 2, 2018, at 5:26 AM, fournierbru <[1]fournier...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

      the Montreal community will be able to get stoned legalllly as of
    july
      1st...personally at 59..I am no longer interested..prefer playing
      Ballard and Gaultier
      Bruno
      Envoyé de mon appareil Samsung de Bell via le réseau le plus vaste au
      pays.
      -------- Message d'origine --------
      De : Dan Winheld <[2]dwinh...@lmi.net>
      Date : 18-02-01 8:44 PM (GMT-05:00)
      À : Susan Sandman <[3]susan.sand...@gmail.com>, Tristan von Neumann
      <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>
      Cc : lutelist Net <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
      Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book
      They are legalizing Marijuana all over the place, come to California
    if
      you want to get stoned! (I gave up that little distraction decades
    ago,
      but I also much prefer Ballard). :-D
      Dan
      On 2/1/2018 5:15 PM, Susan Sandman wrote:

         Stoning is medieval, appropriate only hundreds of years before...
         Susan
         On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:46 PM Tristan von Neumann
         <[1][6]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
           Do I get stoned by the community if I say that I like Ballard

      more

           anyway? :)
           Am 02.02.2018 um 00:36 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier:

      En guise de conclusion ;-) :
      If you look at the chronological development of Ennemond's

      career

           and life, his "his high reputation" as a baroque lute super

      hero

           simply doesn't hold.

      So there must be other material around to explain this

      phenomenon.

      Cherbury is only one piece in the puzzle and certainly not

      the

           most interesting one concerning old Ennemond! There is a lot

      more to

           see and play in at least a dozen other ms. and of course his
           production in accords nouveaux is another essential aspect of

      the

           problem.

      Merci de votre intérêt et la "chasse" continue... :-)!
      Best,
      Jean-Marie

      Le 1 févr. 2018 à 22:53, G. C. <[2][7]kalei...@gmail.com>

      a écrit

           :

         PS.
         And of course, I meant to say "you and Jean-Marie"

      SORRY! :D

         On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:27 PM, G. C.

           <[1][3][8]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:

              Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying,

      that

           comparing to
              what there is of real quality music for the lute

      out

           there, and

           trying
              to keep in mind, the "high reputation" of Ennemond

           Gaultier, I'm

           sadly,
              not at all impressed by these alleged simple

      courantes

           and voltas

           in
              Cherbury.     Whatever his fame might otherwise be,

           these little

           pieces
              just don't cut the mustard IMHO.
              But if you, as a renowned player, recognise

      Ennemond's

           style in

           those
              little ditties, I'm definitely not going to argue.

      :)

              Best
              G
              On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:09 PM, Ron Andrico
           <[1][2][4][9]praelu...@hotmail.com>
              wrote:
                   G, I think you may have misunderstood my

      message.

             I was

           not
                saying
                   there were concordances in the CNRS edition of

           Vieux

           Gaultier
                that
                   definitely linked pieces in Herbert to the

      proper

           Gaultier.

              I
                said
                   that one could easily identify the style of

      music

           in that

           edition
                and
                   compare to the sparse style of the Herbert

      pieces

           attributed

           to
                   Gaultier.     From a player's point of view, I

      feel

           a very

           strong
                   similarity, and one only has to supply

      ornamented

           repeats in

           the
                proper
                   style to flesh out the bones of these pieces

      and

           make some

           very
                fine
                   music.
                   RA
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