Am Donnerstag, 08. Februar 2018 10:29 CET, Joachim Lüdtke 
<> schrieb: 
> Dear Robert, dear Rainer,
> original sources can (sometimes) be found by looking into Norbert Böker-Heil 
> et al. (eds.); "Das Tenorlied". 3 Vols Kassel etc. 1979 - 1986.

That would be the first place to look, haven't access to it right now, 
> This is a source catalogue of songbooks both manuscript and printed from 1450 
> to 1580. Vol. 3 contains the indexes. "Vnser magt kan ausz der massen"  = 
> Songbook printed by Egenolff in Frankfurt, [1535], nr. 15 (anon.).

Do you happen to know in which Egenolff print this is suppoed to be? I'm 
looking at the Gassenhawerlin and 
Reuterliedlin from 1535 and can' t find it in neither.

> If you have access to "Denkmäler der Tonkunst in Oesterreich", you may find 
> texts to the intavolations in the critical commentary to Koczirz's edition of 
> Newsidler, Judenkunig & Co. in Vol. 37  (I don't have this at hand, so: just 
> an idea).
> The Deutsche Volksliederarchiv in Freiburg may also be helpful ...

Hmm, I had mixed results last time I visited (~20 years ago). Also the changed 
their focus (now called 
"Zentrum für Populäre Kultur und Musik") and, unfortunately, their beatiful 
location. BTW, their online
database ( doesn't list the song.

 Cheers, RalfD


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