[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

Sun, 18 Aug 2019 14:57:38 -0700 

   Louise Gottsched, who wrote the first biographic article about S. L.
   Weiss in her husband' BIG "Handlexicon" ("Handlexikon oder kurzgefaßtes
   Wörterbuch der schönen Wissenschaften und freyen Künste", Leipzig:
   Gleditsch, 1760), defines the swan neck lute as "theorbieret" (if I
   remember correctly) and of course attributes the idea to S. L. Weiss.
   Despite what some lutemakers seem to like, I wouldn't define the swan
   neck baroque lute as a "theorbo": it introduces much confusion in a
   field where we do not need to add more, I believe.
   ---- Attivato Sun, 18 Aug 2019 23:06:37 +0200 David Van Edwards
   <[email protected]> ha scritto ----

   Dear Howard,
   The Tielke is a bizarre German baroque swan neck
   style job with an extremely long neck probably
   the result of a conversion by Bachmann in 1760.
   The Tieffenbrucker is another swan neck
   instrument resulting from a conversion possibly
   by Fux though 1696 is a bit early unless it was
   then intended as an angelique.Neither are what we
   would nowadays call a theorbo, though of course
   the term was in use then for such instuments.
   Best wishes,
   David
   At 13:37 -0700 18/8/19, howard posner wrote:
   > > On Aug 18, 2019, at 10:22 AM, David Van
   >Edwards <[1][email protected]> wrote:
   >>
   >> There are of course several luiti attiorbati in
   >> Paris with 7 fingered courses but one of them
   >> looks a bit theorbo-ish and might be the one
   >> you're thinking of. It's anonymous E.25 (C228) 13
   >> courses 1x1, 6x2 @ 710mm + 6x2 @ 1090. Joël's
   >> catalogue thinks it was converted from a
   >> German/Italian renaissance lute into a liuto
   >> attiorbato in 17th century. All the real theorbos
   >> there have six fingered courses, either double or
   >> single.
   >
   >My information is all second or third-hand, but
   >I was also thinking of the "Magno diefobruchar a
   >venetia" and Tielke instruments in Paris Musee
   >de la Musique, both apparently configured like
   >German lutes with 8 fingerboard courses at 82
   >and 84 cm.
   >
   >
   >
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