Thanks George, this is interesting!
Though I was referring to Afghan singers because they are mentioned in the source explicitly as singing like Europeans. For diminution practices and virtuoso singing, I consider Indian singers a good inspiration. Indian music theory also talks about how not to sing, being very much in line with what Ron wrote. On 26.08.19 11:07, Georges de Lucenay wrote: Maybe classic Iranian singers would be even a better demonstration. You get the impression of understanding what they sing, not knowing a single word of their language. There are some very interesting records from 1920 and later in : [1]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbna8Sjey3cn5pdiTDNfHgEHoTRW2 uppy Enjoy before Donald forbid... Georges Le 24/08/2019 à 15:43, Tristan von Neumann a écrit : Thanks Ron! I wish more Early Musicians would turn to their natural voices. And polyphonic madrigals are rarely sung in a natural voice, many performances I find very irritating. Apart from sources, there is another way to approximate the sound of the voice around 1600: A Jesuit traveller in Afghanistan in the early 17th century witnessed a singer and wrote that he sang exactly like Europeans, with an open natural voice, as opposed to the forced "in the throat" style of (East) Asians. (Unfortunately I forgot to bookmark the source, but I will look for it again, if anyone is interested.) Anyway - we can listen to Afghan singers today, and it's like what we would expect: [2]https://youtu.be/CWY1u661ZB0?t=84 Note that the singer carefully pays attention to make the text clear, rarely using graces. And we don't see gaping mouths either. This type of voice I would like to hear in Early Music. On 24.08.19 14:46, Ron Andrico wrote: We have posted our Saturday morning quotes, this time on a topic of crucial importance to lutenists who perform with singers. [1][3]https://wp.me/p15OyV-4pn Ron & Donna -- References 1. [4]https://wp.me/p15OyV-4pn To get on or off this list see list information at [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Georges de Lucenay 11, rue du Prieuré 71120 Charolles 06 77 77 12 33 -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbna8Sjey3cn5pdiTDNfHgEHoTRW2uppy 2. https://youtu.be/CWY1u661ZB0?t=84 3. https://wp.me/p15OyV-4pn 4. https://wp.me/p15OyV-4pn 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
