Dear Denys, Thanks for this info, and sorry for the late reply.
The edition I had asked for (and kindly received from Rainer and a few others) is this earlier edition that Wyssenbach copied. (Borrono-Milano 1546 (8)). The problem was that the copy most often available online is in barely readable condition. In this print, the ornaments are not enclosed in these signs: ( ), as in 1548 (6) and Wyssenbach. The extra number for the ornament is just added to the tab without any indication, and one has to figure out which notes go together. There will be, say, a row of nine 8th notes in a measure and one will be the ornament. Anyway, at first glance I didn't see any ornaments, so wondered if I had the right book. In the end I received a very good copy, and could see clearly where the extra numbers coincided with the Wyssenbach ornaments. Best wishes, Robert --- Ich habe diese Nachricht mit der [1]GMX Mail App für Windows erstellt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Denys Stephens" <[email protected]> Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Oktober 2019 14:15 An: [email protected]; [email protected] Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Borrono-Francesco facsimile Dear Robert, Diana Poulton wrote about this in her article 'Graces of play in renaissance lute music' (Early Music vol. 3 no.2 April 1975) where she refers to the second edition of the 'Intavolatura di Lauto dell Divino Francesco da Milano et dell' eccelente Pietro Paulo Borrono' printed in Milan in 1548 which at the time belonged to Geneviève Thibault and is now in the Bibliothèque National de France: [2]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k12800211 This version contains the ornament signs using two tablature letters contained within a pair of brackets. The excerpt from the 'regola' at the beginning of the print is translated by Poulton as follows: 'where a circle is found ( ), two fingers must be placed on the string and the finger on the lesser number must be held firm. Pull down the string with the finger which is on the higher number as if the voice were notated on the lesser of the two frets. This is done because the lute will sound sweeter. But the said circle is one stroke only.' She notes that in Wyssenbach's Francesco / Borrono print of 1550 'the same half circles that had appeared in Borrono's compositons in the earlier book' are reproduced. Best wishes, Denys -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 17 October 2019 22:18 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Borrono-Francesco facsimile Yes. Thanks very much Rainer. My memory is apparently not so good these days. I remember now having seen this in an unreadable copy. This one is better. But what version did Wyssenbach use for his ornamented edition? Thanks again, Robert --- Ich habe diese Nachricht mit der [1]GMX Mail App für Windows erstellt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rainer <[email protected]> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2019 23:01 An: "Robert Barto" <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Borrono-Francesco facsimile </[email protected]> This one? Rainer Am 17.10.2019 um 22:42 schrieb Robert Barto: > Hi all, > > Can anyone point me to a facsimile copy of ïÿý Brown 1546 (8)? > > Thanks, > > Robert > > Virenfrei. [1][2][3]www.avast.com > > -- > > References > > Visible links: > 1. [3][4]https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&; utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > Hidden links: > 3. [4][5]https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&; utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > 4. file://localhost/net/ifs-users/lute-arc/L32607-7401TMP.html#DAB4FAD8-2D D7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2 > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [5][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > References 1. [7]https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9WZDNCRDRH19?cid=signature_link 2. [8]http://www.avast.com/ 3. [9]https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaig n=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient 4. [10]https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&ut m_campaig n=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient 5. [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. [12]https://www.avg.com References 1. https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9WZDNCRDRH19?cid=signature_link 2. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k12800211 3. http://www.avast.com/ 4. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm 5. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9WZDNCRDRH19?cid=signature_link 8. http://www.avast.com/ 9. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaig 10. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaig 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 12. https://www.avg.com/
