Many thanks, Andreas. I've downloaded the two appendices, which are a mine of information, and which will keep me busy for some time.

Good luck with your talk to the Lute Society.

Best wishes,

Stewart.

-----Original Message----- From: Andreas Schlegel
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 10:53 AM
To: Stewart McCoy
Cc: lute list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ballard 1612

  There's an important article on that topic by François-Pierre Goy:

  LA PRATIQUE DE LA PARODIE SPIRITUELLE DANS UN MONASTÈRE TROYEN AU XVIIe
SIÈCLE les � Cantiques spirituels faits à la Visitassion Ste Marie �
  (F-T Ms. 1686)
  The book can be ordered here:
  [1]http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_musi
  cologie.html
  Scroll to the third book.
  There are links to the two annexes which include some Airs with
  parodies by Berthod.
  On next Saturday I will speak at the Lute Society Meeting and play from
  the von Erlach lute book. The topic of the „travel" of melodies is one
  important part of my mini-recital at 11:30.
  [2]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings
  I hope to see you there!
  Andreas

  Am 02.02.2020 um 00:37 schrieb Stewart McCoy
  <lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>:

  Thanks, Rainer. Much appreciated.
  There are some other interesting books to be found at the same library.
  If
  you click on "Rechercher" and do a search for "luth", you'll find more
  tablature with a copy of Piccinini.  There is also an interesting
  looking collection of songs by Chancy. Most intriguing are three song
  collections
  (in one volume) by François Berthod, who flourished in the 1650s. He
  took
  songs by well-known French composers, and replaced their words with a
  spiritual text. There is a brief Wiki article about him. On the title
  page of his books there is a left-handed lute-player with a six-string
  (single courses) lute. All the songs are for two voices - treble and
  bass - with both parts texted. There are no figures for the bass part,
  yet a chordal accompaniment on a lute or theorbo should nevertheless be
  possible.
  I would be interested to know what the songs are, to which Berthod set
  his spiritual text. There is no way of knowing from Berthod's
  collection, and although the library mentions composers like Bacilly
  and Le Camus, they don't seem to say who wrote which songs, and what
  the original words were.
  Best wishes,
  Stewart.
  -----Original Message----- From: Rainer
  Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:09 PM
  To: Lute net
  Subject: [LUTE] Ballard 1612
  https://mazarinum.bibliotheque-mazarine.fr/ark:/61562/mz3446
  Click under "Télécharger"
  Rainer
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References

1. http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_musicologie.html 2. https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings

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