I think I remember that concert or perhaps it was a video. I donât have Tom Bergenâs contact info. That is exactly what Iâm trying to do, however.
I had special end pins made for my 7 course and my archlute that has a cut out and attached with a bit of gut that allows me to put a mic inside. I found having it near the end pin did not sound so great, so I used a plastic straw obtained from a fast food franchise and used that to position the mic just behind the bridge. That worked pretty well. I think it was Ed Martin who mentioned wedging a mic near the bridge on the top. That is what I have been doing for many years now. I have a very thin piece of wood that is held in place by the 1st, 2nd and maybe 3rd course strings and sticks off the edge of the bridge. I put my mic in some foam and it is wedged in there pointing at the sound hole. I find this is the loudest way and it gets a very nice sound. On Feb 8, 2020, at 4:17 AM, guy_and_liz Smith <[1]guy_and_...@msn.com> wrote: If you can figure out how to get in touch with Tom Bergen in Seattle (last I heard...), he had a great sounding Lundberg 11 course French baroque instrument with an internal pickup mounted near or under the bridge. He had a miniplug built into the strap button that he connected to a wireless transmitter that he concealed under his coat (Pigtail?). Worked great. He played it at LSA one year and it was good enough to fool some well-known professionals. IIRC, it wasn't an add-on to an existing instrument; he had Lundberg build it specifically to accommodate the pickup, and I think it took at least a couple of tries to get it right. I don't recall any details, but I'm sure Tom could tell you if you can get ahold of him. I also have a Schertler (which I confess that I haven't actually used much). One thing I discovered is that it is quite sensitive to exactly where you stick it on the top. If you are getting a poor sound, try moving it around. For the instrument I tried it with, just above the base side of the bridge seemed to be the best spot, but YMMV. Guy -----Original Message----- From: [2]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [[3]mailto:lute-arc@new -old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David van Ooijen Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 2:52 AM Cc: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: pickup or mic inside lute I have a separate Schertler stick-on mic that I can use on all lutes/guitars I play. I can plug it into an amp I bring myself, or alternatively have a preamp (also Schertler) to give the PA-man a Direct Out while I'm still in control of my own EQ. The preamp also has a mute button, comes in handy when not playing or when tuning. A normal mic sounds better, but this works and had no feed back issues. A mic inside an instrument (I have a classical guitar with a build-in condenser mic) sounds rather boomy and can have feed-back issues. ymmv David ******************************************* David van Ooijen [1][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2][5]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F %2Fdavidvanooijen.wordpress.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2ba98fe764fc47df4 cfb08d7abbc0536%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6371666963 33099198&sdata=YIN3NmhKr39X4IhZHC1rMvRWNJVvbzbD5nHZMgYZrLM%3D&r eserved=0 ******************************************* On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 07:40, Ed Durbrow <[3][6]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: I'm thinking of having my archlute repaired which will entail removal of the top. I'm also thinking if I do that, I'd like to have a pickup or mic installed. I'm looking for recommendations for a natural sounding pickup or mic inside the lute that is no hassle use. I need something that can be plugged into a wireless transmitter. 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