At 05:23 PM 1/15/2013, Jeremy Visser wrote:
>On 13/01/13 20:05, Tony Langdon wrote:
> > A /64 should do most home networks.
>
>Where “most” doesn’t include power users. A /64 cannot be divided any

Well, since when are power users in the majority?  I stand by "most".


>A fair few non-power users use multiple subnets without realising it —
>all the time I come across people who have purchased a wired-only ADSL
>modem, and put a wireless router behind it. That’s two (currently IPv4,
>could become IPv6 if CPE one day supports sub-DHCPv6-PD) subnets right
>there.

A lot of that ugliness comes from NAT.  Plug it 
in, it works.... until someone wants to use an 
application that requires port forwarding, then it all breaks.

>(If you’ve ever wondered why most ADSL modem/routers default to
>192.168.1.0/24, and most non-ADSL routers default to 192.168.2.0/24,
>this is the precise use case in mind.)

Encouraging the ugliness to continue.  Will be 
interesting to see how IPv6 devices cope with this.


>I’m a power user, and have used 5 × /64’s out of my /56 at various
>stages. So a /60 would do me nicely, but I can think of a couple of my
>own clients who are approaching 16 separate subnets. A /56 would be
>needed for them.

I was like that, I've flattened my networks to a 
single subnet as time goes by.  Reason being it 
makes it more "user friendly" for anyone else here.


>It’s easier to estimate IP allocation growth when you have to deal with
>x number of customers, rather than needing to separately deal with
>business/residential trends if you are delegating different sized
>subnets to each demographic.
>
>In other words, it’s much easier to just give a /56 to everyone. You’ve
>gotta pick your battles. Squeezing 100% efficiency out of your IP
>allocations isn’t one I want to fight.

That might be the easiest way.  The best 
flexibility is if ISPs offer a /64 by default, 
but allow power users to request a /56.  Cases 
such as cascaded routers would be better handled 
by smarter devices that only act as routers when 
they have to.  Not sure how that would be 
achieved, would require a bit of thought.

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