Hi Toby,

one more question... That Lenovo laptop you are using below, does it have a 
Windows 8 logo on it???

LUVers tell me if I am getting this right or am I missing something here?

By my understanding of things, Microsoft requires that new hardware support 
UEFI Secure Boot to be **certified for
Windows 8 ** - and that means to be able to have a Windows 8 Logo showing on 
it.  (I think this is what used to be
called Windows Logo certification). There are also similar requirements for 
desktop apps to be able to claim Windows 8
certification and that means they have to, in some circumtances be signed by 
Microsoft, eg Drivers.
(see: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh749939.aspx).

I can of course go to a shop and purchase a box copy of Win8 or an upgrade 
version and install on my pre Windows 8 (eg
Windows 7) laptop. and this would boot Windows 8 fine (without UEFI) .. and my 
laptop would have a Windows 7 sticker on
it., ie I dont need UEFI to boot Windows 8.

Now, earlier today, I was wondering around at JB HIFI, and was looking at the 
laptops.  Not a single one of them
actually had a Windows 8 logo showing, except for the Surface, (unless it was 
underneath, and I did not lift every
single one to look underneath) and were running Windows 8,  BUT there were a 
few older laptops running Windows 7 AND
all having a Windows 7 sticker showing, ie these met Microsoft Logo 
certification for Win 7.. whatever that entailed.

So my Queston is: does that mean that all these new laptops are not by 
Microsoft definition Windows 8 certified, and
are running the non UEFI bootable version of Windows 8 (ie box set equivalent) 
(hence Toby being able to boot his
Lenovo laptop without secure boot enable), and are not actually implementing 
secure boot and would therefore boot
any version of Linux perfectly? Also, most manufacturers have pretty much given 
up on Windows 8 certification and
UEFI anyway? Which kind of makes sense, since what it all means is being able 
to put a small Win 8 Sticker?

What am I missing?!!


Cheers
Daniel.






> Hi,
> There's been a bit of discussion on the list in recent months about 
> problems with Windows 8, Secure Boot and Linux.
> 
> I just thought I'd chip in to say that I've actually found it to be fine 
> -- Ubuntu 13.04 installed really simply, resizing the Windows 8 
> partition down, and adding itself to the BIOS boot menu.
> 
> I needed to go into the BIOS and disable Secure Boot, but this hasn't 
> prevented Windows 8 from continuing to work fine too.
> 
> -Toby
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