On 26/07/13 11:53, Kevin wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Craig Sanders <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 07:13:25PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
>> > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Craig Sanders <[email protected] 
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > > my main zpools (4x1TB in RAIDZ1) are about 70% full.  I probably
>> > > should start thinking about replacing the drives with 4x2TB
>> > > soon...or deleting some crap.
>> >
>> > 2*4TB would give you twice the storage you've currently got with less
>> > noise and power use.
>>
>> and faster than raidz or raid5 too, but it would only give me a total of
>> 4TB in a mirrored/raid-1 pair. seagate ST4000DM000 drives seem to be the
>> cheapest the moment at $195...so a total of $390.
>>
>> noise isn't an issue (the system fans are louder than the drives, and
>> they're low noise fans), and power isn't much of a concern (the drives
>> use 4.5W each idle, 6W in use)
>>
>> i've been reading up on drive reviews recently - advance planning for
>> the upgrade - and while the ST4000DM000 has got good reviews, the WD
>> RED drives seem better. 4TB RED drives aren't available yet, and 3TB
>> WD30EFRX drives cost $158 each.
> 
> I would not give the red drives much consideration as they are 
> mostly a marketing change over the blacks. Based on reports from companies 
> like backblaze I would consider hitachi deskstars if the budget permitted 
> else go with seagate DM series
> Anything advertised for enterprise purposes is really pointless.
> 
> WD blacks or reds are also appropriate but avoid the greens (stupid idle 
> timeout.)

Have I done something wrong? I've been running the WD Greens for nearly two 
years without any issues
(raidz mirror). There's a flash tool (wdidle3) that allows you to change the 
LCC timeout to a
maximum of five minutes or disable it completely. Here's at least one reference

http://alfredoblogspage.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/western-digital-wd20earx-load-cycle.html


> 
> 
>> > How do you replace a zpool?  I've got a system with 4 small disks in a
>> > zpool that I plan to replace with 2 large disks.  I'd like to create
>> > a new zpool with the 2 large disks, do an online migration of all the
>> > data, and then remove the 4 old disks.
>>
>> *snipping text*
>>
>> if you're converting from a 4-drive raidz to a 2-drive mirrored pair,
>> then this is the only way to do it.
> 
> the static vdev sizing is truly one of the few annoying things about zfs 
> 
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