Hello Craig,

On Sun, 2013-08-11 at 00:53 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 07:34:51PM +1000, Mark Trickett wrote:
> > That is what I was looking for. I was considering lightweight
> > graphical desktops, and not sure of quite which. Comments from the
> > experience of others is what I value in this situation.
> 
> lxde is another popular option for a lightweight window manager.

And playing with on a resurrected IPEX P4 with 256Mb of RAM, currently
stand alone. I will look at removing Net-Manager, and setting up a
manually configured network. I am also considering setting up a DHCP
server as an exercise, on the right hardware, and tying the allocated IP
addresses to the MAC addresses. The right hardware would be a RPi or
BeagleBone, ie low power for running 24/7.

> > Will consider the zram, but wait for budget.
> 
> sorry, i must have given the wrong impression.
> 
> zram is free, it's included with recent-ish kernels. it uses some of
> your existing RAM and creates a compressed ramdisk swap device.
> 
> so if you have 2GB, you might configure it to use up to 1GB as
> compressed swap and, depending on exactly what was being paged out and
> how compressible it was, you get much more than that. when a process
> needs some code/data swapped back in, it comes from the zram swap which
> is much faster than disk - especially the slow 5400rpm disks typically
> in a laptop. (of course, if you've got an SSD then it's probably not
> worth it)

The 1.5Gb on the laptop might be serviceable that way, but not the next
toy desktop. I will need to look to resurrecting what was the next
workstation, but has currently died. At the moment, not certain whether
MB and CPU, or just the PSU. That was a dual core Intel CPU with 3Gb and
quite nice, gave me a taste of the responsiveness of running on a modern
multicore CPU. Also would like to get running the older Pentium classic
P200 HX MB with 64Mb of RAM. Now that will require a small footprint
install.

> > Dropped a bit of timber when chasing mice in the walls. Have mostly
> > eliminated critters, but still more needs doing.
> 
> mice love cats, esp with toxoplasmosis.

And I would love a cat as a companion, but not while my work takes me
away too much, when I have work. If I had a settled older cat, yes, but
not to introduce one when I can be away all day, several days running,
and even away for a week. There is also the ratsack to remove.

> > Noted, it might be possible to do an install to a disk in a better PC,
> > then transfer. If I can get some specs, would you, or Russell Coker
> > be able to source old RAM and post for a payment. I do not wish to
> > impose, and I did "haunt" the Swap Meets, but being four hours from
> > Melbourne makes it a bit difficult. I am also now a bit out of touch
> > with most things post Pentium Classic, not entirely, but certainly not
> > so familiar.
> 
> what sort do you need? i may have some old DDR or DDR2 RAM lying around
> you can have. 

As commented, not looking for laptop RAM, that is maxed out. The IPEX
desktop has two slots for PC133, one of which has a 256Mb stick
installed. Next is to look for next desktop workstation, but really
should earn money first. Even should you or Russell have a second hand
unit, cannot really spare the funds for the 600+ Km round trip to
collect. There will be work, in due course, then short of time.

> i don't have any old laptop ram, i've always been averse to laptops
> (i dislike tiny keyboards, tiny screens and especially touchpads) and
> haven't had any real need for one...i only really bought my x401u
> because it was cheap and i wanted a keyboard/screen/ssh terminal to take
> to linux conf.

I have an interest in mounting a RPi in a VESA box on the back of a flat
panel monitor, relatively low power, and small physical footprint. I am
also interested in using one headless as a server as mentioned earlier.
Again, waiting to earn, then can learn and sell expertise, hopefully a
better income, and less arduous than current physical employment. Then
the physical activities for myself can be to my pacing.

> craig

Regards,

Mark Trickett

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