On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Brett Pemberton wrote:


>
> I don't see the logic behind not using a tool because it uses the libraries
> of a window manager you don't use.
> You can still use fvwm all you like, have the gnome-libs, the kde-libs, the
> ratpoison-libs, whatever installed.
>
> I really thought the days of "eewwww, that uses qt, BANISHED" were over.
>
> cheers,
>
>     / Brett
>


In the end we live in a free society, we are allowed to like and dislike 
things for personal reasons. If the "like" does not harm anyone and keeps 
the particular person happy that is all the matters..........

But I will explain this "dislike", as previously stated I use dselect as 
my package manager of choice, I have tried both aptitude and synaptic and 
neither program allowed me to work the way I wish. I like a clean tight 
system without any extra items I cannot use. I found I could only do this 
with dselect, both aptitude and synaptic installed other items "depends" 
, ie "recommends" and "suggests" inspite of what one wanted. I found at 
the time a tried these one simply could not get around this so matter what 
one did.

There is a second reason, some years ago I was trying to find out how the 
elf library system worked and one of the sets of libraries a tried was the 
gnome libraries. Gnome is an abstracted interface in essence to make 
programming "easier", unfortunately what I found was layers of 
abstraction. The actual librarie function call going through a complex 
path to the processor. Gnome calling, gtk, that called gdk, that called 
Xintrinsics, that called the main X11 librarie which actually exicuted the 
function, None of the intermediate calls did anything but pass on the 
calls (I traced 4 separate functions, all did the same thing).
This sort of thing is the death of a fast system. I actually discussed 
this with some of the "gnome" people and they could not have cared less.

I made a conscous decision not to use gnome after that, Linux being as it 
is there is few applications that do not have multiple candidates that one 
can use. No one _has_ to use a particular program.


Using Linux for 20 years,
Lindsay
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