On 1 July 2014 09:20, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have been reading the "btrfs/ZFS, sans raid and bitrot" thread and a
> number of thoughts and questions spring to mind.
>
> I get the impression that some are looking for a single reliable storage
> solution to avoid having to do backups.
>
> Surely this is impossible, I certainly would ______NEVER______ (excuse the
> shouting) ever trust my life to a single system if at all possible. When
> one is doing instrument flying training as a pilot you are constantly told
> never to rely on a single instrument but scan all of them and come up with
> an overall coherent picture. If one relies in such circumstances on a
> single point of failure you __will__ kill yourself.
>
> One is told raid or any such thing is a reliabilty strategy __not__ a
> backup strategy.
>
>
>
Correct and all good points.  But even when you've got a good back-up
system of a RAID array (btrfs/zfs not withstanding) any bitrot gets backed
up too.

This happened to me on my media server - 2 disks in a mirrored set had
corrupted TV episodes on them which in turn were sent to the back-up in the
corrupted state. Software raid didn't know about the corruption and
dutifully carried on keeping the corrupted data.  Fortunately I have the
original DVDs from which I could re-rip the corrupted episodes.

So I've switched to zfs and I back-up to two separate places (also on
zfs).  Weekly scrub ops detect and correct data as best they can.



-- 
Colin Fee
[email protected]
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