Brian May said, 

>How many times do you expect the developer's to do this?

>What is happening is as more and more people are becoming aware of
>systemd, people are raising the similar concerns over and over again.>

>I don't think it is surprising that the developers might be getting
>tired of having the same discussions over and over again. They could
>be spending their time better fixing these problems rather then
>arguing the same thing for the x millionth time.

>Nor is it surprising that some legitimate concerns might not be
>getting addressed to everyone's satisfaction.
 

Firstly thanks to Russell for the response, some good info there, Now I do 
value your opinion but........ 

I am trying to make a decision based on good and reliable evidence and I do 
apreciate that if one spends all the time reading stuff on the net one will 
never get anything done. The problem from a person outside the immediate 
discussion on systemd is that there are ___plenty___ of sites running down 
systemd but I have yet to find a site that presents the pro case in an un 
biased manner, one certainly cannot rely on its main developers for such 
data. From my experience on researching information on computor systems 
such an absence is likely to mean there is no such evidence. 

Note, Russel mentioned something that does complicate the issue, that is if 
systemd devs will not except Debians input they may fork it. This changes 
the situation quite a bit as I have far more trust in the Debian devs than 
some maverick developers going against all unix traditions. We the debian 
users though would still like to know debians pro case. 

If we the general Linux user is expected to make a rational judgment we 
must have both cases presented in a decent fashion, simply saying most 
users do not need to know the pro case will almost surely end up in a grave 
misscarriage of justice. 

Lindsay
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