On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 04:35:31PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> I think the result of this GR would be any bug along the lines of "XYZ
> won't work with initd system ZYX" would be treated as RC (release
> critical). Which sounds good, except:
> 
> * They left it to the last minute before the freeze.
> 
> * I don't believe it actually is a problem any more. Gnome no longer
> depends on systemd (there are some bugs that have been ironed out in
> unstable, and just need to propagate through to testing).

apparently this is the case at the moment, which makes now a perfect time
to have it made into policy - no additional work is required to comply.

if we wait until there is a lot of work to be done then it will be declared
an impossible task.

not having such a policy would make it acceptable to have stealth or
forced conversions to systemd via Depends. it's already hard work to
avoid having systemd auto-installed on upgrade - making it impossible
would mean that all the rhetoric about systemd being "only the default
init system, users can choose" a sadistally obvious lie.


> If people really want init system XYZ to work, somebody will do the
> work to do this. Trying to force the maintainer to do something via a
> GR and RC bugs isn't going to work.

you could say the same thing about any debian policy - requiring
a package to conform to debian's numerous policies is forcing the
maintainer to do something.  IMO complying with policy is a hugely
important part of what it takes to get a package into debian...if you're
not willing to do the work, then don't submit a half-arsed non-compliant
job.

craig

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craig sanders <[email protected]>
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