On Fri, 31 Oct 2014, Avi Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think that it would be good to have some Oracle employees give talks at
> > LUV meetings as they are doing a lot that LUV members could learn about.
> >  Avi you are obviously well qualified to give such talks, but I think it
> > would be good to get other Oracle employees with different skills
> > involved too.  A lecture about running the Oracle Database on Linux
> > would be of interest.
> 
> We've been declined in the past talking about non-Open Source products like
> Database in spaces like LUV. I don't recall if it was specifically LUV,
> but I know that previous attempts to do similar style presentations have
> not been well-received.

As a member of the LUV committee I assure you that offers of lectures for LUV 
talks will not be badly received.  It may be that we decline some offers due 
to having offers that seem to be of more interest to the audience.  But we 
appreciate receiving offers.  We really don't get an excessive number of 
offers.

Also note that we can schedule talks at short notice if the situation demands 
it.  For example of a skilled programmer who works for Oracle happens to be in 
Melbourne with a spare evening then it's not impossible to put something else 
off the schedule.  I have a talk scheduled for the next meeting, if one of the 
stars of Oracle happened to be only available on that day then I'm happy to 
give them my speaking slot.

Also it's not impossible to have 3 lectures on one night if we have 
opportunities for good lectures that LUV members will benefit from.

> > Also Red Hat has been running free public events teaching people about
> > their products and services which I have found to be good value (and I
> > have recommended some on this list).  Does Oracle run such events?
> 
> Oracle runs lots and lots of free seminars and events in Melbourne and
> around Australia. However, most of those events are focused on the Oracle
> product stack and have little to no Open Source "worth" (for want of a
> better word).

That could be.  Please tell me what Oracle is offering in private email or to 
the committee list.  I might attend for my own interest even if it doesn't 
seem to be relevant for LUV.  ;)

> > Some years ago there was an Oracle database install-fest, that was a
> > useful event and many people learned a lot there.  I think it would be
> > good if Oracle ran another of those, if that happens I think it would be
> > appropriate for LUV to promote that.
> 
> If you're interested in things like install-fests and other Oracle-product
> related seminars, I would urge you to join AUSOUG[1],the Australian Oracle
> User Group. There is also NZOUG which runs a great conference each year
> (that I've spoken at several times).

I've checked out the AUSOG web site, it seems mostly aimed at people who 
already do serious things with Oracle.  I'm interested in events about what 
you can do with Oracle at a high level, so if one of my clients has a possible 
need for Oracle technology I can give them good advice.

> Essentially, the audience at LUV I suspect is not the target market for
> Oracle-focused presentations as they tend to be about proprietary
> products. Though, I'm absolutely willing to come and talk about
> developments and improvements within Oracle Linux itself.

That would be great!

> [1] http://www.ausoug.org.au/pages

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