On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:31:32 PM Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 18.06.15 19:20, Chris Samuel wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:20:56 PM Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > > I have to admit that my recent debian 7.8.0 install is piling up
> > > notifications of recommended package upgrades, which I ignore because it
> > > doesn't provide a list of them I can aim apt at.
> > 
> > Isn't that what "apt-get dist-upgrade" is for?
> 
> Yes, but as mentioned in the post, I refuse to click on a surrender
> icon, to buy a pig in a poke.

Sorry, I don't get it.   You said you weren't getting a list of packages that 
were wanting to be upgraded, and that's just what apt-get dist-upgrade will 
tell you.    Just add the -d option (download only) if you want to be really 
sure it won't touch anything.

[apt-listchanges]
> Done. Thanks, Chris.

No worries.   Also check out etckeeper to keep /etc under git revision 
control, it's fantastic (on Ubuntu it's less easy as you have to make sure you 
install etckeeper either at the same time as git or after without having bzr 
installed otherwise it'll configure itself to use bzr and commit automatically 
before you can fix it to use git).

> Mind you, that merely listed maybe sixty packages, and provided one
> confirmation check, as it does on any large install, even with
> confirm=0. Perhaps there's a difference in behaviour on one small
> package, which otherwise is just slipped in?

File a bug, it shouldn't happen, this is why people running Debian stable.

If it was RHEL I'd be a lot more concerned.

You trade off possible (unlikely) behaviour changes with definite security 
vulnerabilities.   The answer depends on your risk assessment.

> > Best of luck,
> 
> May need it. I've never been willing to do dist-upgrade before.

Been using it for years on many systems.  I'd be a bit more nervous of that 
with debian-lts (squeeze) but we avoided the kernel regression in the 12 
release and haven't been hit by other issues (yet).

All the best,
Chris
-- 
 Chris Samuel  :  http://www.csamuel.org/  :  Melbourne, VIC

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