On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 03:19:46PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> With the metadata laws.... does anyone here have a good understanding on
> how we stand running our own mail servers onsite for ourselves and/or
> for our clients (domains owned by us and also by clients) ?
> 
> http://blog.fastmail.com/2015/04/09/fastmail-is-not-required-to-implement-the-australian-metadata-retention-laws/

IANAL, but on my reading, unless you are a carrier or an internet
service provider (within the meaning of Schedule 5 to the Broadcasting
Services Act 1992), then the metadata laws won't apply to you or your
mail server.


It probably doesn't matter much because most of the people you
communicate with in australia will be using mail servers subject to the
metadata retention laws anyway.

It also doesn't matter because unless you make a habit of deleting
your mail logs several times per day (or just not keeping any at all),
cops and spooks can get a warrant for anything on your machine. and if
you piss them off they'll just take anything even remotely resembling
a "computer" and maybe you'll get (some of) it back one year if you
can afford really good lawyers for really long court cases that will
probably end up at the high court before it's all resolved. note: almost
everything has a "computer" inside it these days.

and they don't even really need a warrant because the govt's given them
the legal right to hack if they want to.

and if they decide to label you a terrorist (which has a scarily broad
definition), you have almost no rights whatsoever. so, try not to be
brown. or politically active.

and ASIO can always ask the NSA for a copy of your mail, same as GCHQ
does in the UK whenever they want data they're not legally allowed to
gather themselves. The NSA considers themselves above the law outside
the US and ignores (or creatively re-interprets) relevant laws inside
the US. and they've got the bomb, so STFU you goddamn commie terrorist.


and..... i'll stop now because i'm getting depressed.

craig

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