Erik Christiansen writes:
> On 21.10.15 23:15, Russell Coker wrote:
>> The Debian package ntp has the ntpd.
>> It is built from the same source package as ntpdate.
>> If you want to set the date from a cron job (or manually) then use ntpdate.
>> Otherwise use ntp.
>
> Darnit, the ntp package _is_ there. Many thanks.
> Have purged openntpd, and substituted ntp.
>
> The only remaining oddity is that ntpdate (when I give it a whirl) still
> doesn't seem able to obey its own conf file, to use /etc/ntp.conf:
>
> # ntpdate -d
> [...]

If you already install ISC ntpd, just use "ntpd -q".
ntpdate is for people who *don't* install an ntpd.
ntpd -q has been available since at least Debian 6 (Feb 2011).

If you have systemd, and you don't need to be an NTP *server*,
consider "systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd" instead.
This is installed but off by default in Debian 8;
AIUI it will be the default in Debian 9.

Running hwclock(8) manually is mostly unnecessary.
The *kernel* writes to the hardware clock every 11 minutes,
iff it believes there's an NTP client keeping the system clock accurate.
(I researched this last month, but I don't have the cites handy.
 If anyone cares, I can go dig it up.)


PS: re "doesn't obey it's config file",
in Debian there are hooks in ISC dhclient to restart ntpd every time it gets a 
lease,
with a custom temporary ntpd.conf.
Maybe ntpdate is using that instead of /etc/ntp.conf?

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