On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 04:54:22PM +1100, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 08:56:52PM -0500, Jason White wrote: > > Russell Coker via luv-main <[email protected]> wrote: > > [...] And worse, DKIM cares about the From: header rather than the > Sender: header.
I'm assuming this was one of those places where you meant DMARC, because DKIM only cares about what you tell it to sign (or not, for that matter) > This is just broken in every possible way. > > > > Yes. I'd appreciate it if people would stop acting like I'm doing > > > something I want to do here. I just want mail to go through > > > reliably and I'm doing what is necessary to achieve that goal. > > [...] That's entirely the wrong thing to do. those who contribute may > well stop bothering if they get annoyed enough, [...] driving away > those who write the posts (that both they and the lurkers read) is > self-defeating. Conversely, it's actually caused me to contribute more than usual, merely to express said annoyance, I'm not sure I want to burn any more calories bothering in future, and have certainly considered unsubscribing. > > Widespread use of DMARC will result in changes to well established > > conventions. > > IMO it's an attempt by major corporate players to completely take over > email so that no email is ever sent that they don't get a copy of to > examine and index and use to build up profiles on individuals. If we're being generous, it's probably just a pleasant side affect. However, I'm yet to see many > and to sell to the NSA etc of course. > > Message forgery is a solved problem. SPF works. DKIM is a) overkill > and b) unnecesary. > > If individual senders need more identity verification than SPF, there > are numerous encryption and signing options available....with support > built in to many MUAs. Agreed, PGP/GPG and S/MIME solved this long ago, with the added benefit of end-to-end encryption. > [...] those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat the > same damned stupid mistakes. This issue was settled definitively in > the 90s. Well said. > [...]
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