On Sunday, 7 August 2016 1:58:25 AM AEST Robin Humble via luv-main wrote:
> has anyone else had issues with ZFS on recent kernels and distros?

Debian/Jessie (the latest version of Debian) is working really well for me.  
Several systems in a variety of configurations without any problems at all.

Earlier versions had ZFS sometimes not mount on boot, but that seems to have 
gone away.

> I'm a bit of a newbie to daily use of ZFS, but I found it's fairly easy
> to completely lockup with lots of metadata ops (eg. du or big rsync).

I had some problems when I first started with a system that had 4G of RAM.  I 
determined that it would be cheaper for my client to buy more RAM than to pay 
me to figure out why it was getting an OOM - and more RAM helps performance.  
Since then I haven't had a problem.

> BTW this is on fedora 24 with root on ZFS, but it sounds like ubuntu
> has similar issues. symptoms feel like a livelock in some slab handling
> rather than an outright OOM. there's 100% system time on all cores,
> zero fs activity, no way out except to reset. unfortunately root on ZFS
> on a laptop means no way that I can think of to get stack traces or logs :-/

I never had ZFS work in a way that was suitable for root.  I have had a number 
of situations where ZFS systems required the ability to boot without ZFS 
mounted.

For the laptops I run I use BTRFS.  It gives all the benefits of ZFS for a 
configuration that doesn't have anything better than RAID-1 and doesn't 
support SSD cache (IE laptop hardware) without the pain.

ZFS is necessary if you need RAID-Z/RAID-5 type functionality (I wouldn't 
trust BTRFS RAID-5 at this stage), if you are running a server (BTRFS 
performance sucks and reliability isn't adequate for a remote DC), or if you 
need L2ARC/ZIL type functionality.

For a laptop slow disk performance usually isn't a problem and ZFS probably 
isn't going to do much better if you have a single HDD.  If you have a SSD in 
your laptop (which costs $200 for 500G) then BTRFS performance will be great.

I wouldn't recommend using ZFS with Fedora.  New releases come out too quickly 
and the out of tree kernel modules have more potential for breaking than 
regular kernel modules.

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