Hi Sae Ra!

[And Jason White's reply noted.]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2026, at 23:09, Sae Ra Germaine via luv-main wrote:

> So I've been trying to get my head around this for a while but
> I was wondering if someone could please help me with some
> history here? Apologies as I haven't been active in the LUV
> community for a while but I think I've missed a memo
> somewhere...

You raise some important matters, which are causing confusion,
and probably haven't (yet) been discussed fully enough.  My
suggestion is that we put these on the agenda for the upcoming
LUV Main meeting (rebadged as LUV Town Hall meeting), which
should be some time in February (not announced yet).

Taking a higher-level view, I think that the over-arching
problem is lack of engagement by LUV members.  It's always been
in my experience (in part on the LUV committee) that most
members don't do much.  And, fair enough, people have lives to
live, and even just being a member is a small positive
contribution.  Some more will attend meetings and contribute on
the mailing lists, etc.  Only a relative few do the real work
required to keep LUV going.  This situation has become worse
since the Covid pandemic, and affects many similar groups.  You,
Sae Ra, will I'm sure be aware of this phenomenon.

Right now I have to run to a class, so I'll leave it there for
now.  I'll try to address your particular concerns later on
today (might slip till tomorrow).

I will, though, remind everyone that the Penguin Picnic
(rebadged as LUV BBQ) coming up on 31st January, is a good
opportunity to revive LUV comradeship, at least for those who
live locally enough.  I hope to see as many as possible of you
there.  Don't forget optionally to RSVP to help with catering.

   https://linuxvictoria.org/posts/2026-01-31_luv-bbq/


— Smiles, Les.
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