Can i propose a simple task for closing this thread?

I think that lwip is (or will be) very diffused in embedded system.

I think it could be useful add a file in lwip distribution with the TEXT
LICENSE for embedded system, which a developer can simply copy at the end of
user manual or warranty manual of embedded device.

what do you think?

2008/3/6, Jonathan Larmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Timmy Brolin wrote:
> > Jonathan Larmour wrote:
> >> Timmy Brolin wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have been thinking about how a manufacturer of a embedded system
> which
> >>> includes the lwip stack can comply with the BSD-license without
> >>> confusing its customers.
> >>> The license is written assuming distribution in software form, binary
> or
> >>> source code. It is not really written with distribution as part of a
> >>> piece of hardware in mind.
> >>> The first two conditions of the license are not valid for a embedded
> >>> system since further distribution is not really possible,
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, the first doesn't apply as that's for source form only. But the
> >> second condition does - it is being distributed in binary form.
> >>
> > Yes, it is, but the customer of the embedded device will not be able to
> > distribute it further. Well, with the exception of selling the device
> > itself second hand of course.
>
>
> Exactly so.
>
>
> > My point is that to people who are not familiar with BSD-style licenses,
> > the text in the license will sound very strange when put into context of
> > a hardware device.
>
>
> But it contains software. If it helps you could include in your preamble
> to
> the license "This product contains software which......"
>
>
>
> >>> I assume several people on this mailing list are in fact producing
> >>> embedded systems containing lwip code. How do you comply with the
> >>> license without confusing your customers?
> >>>
> >>
> >> That's what smallprint is for. Direct customers' attention to what
> matters,
> >> and put the items they need to be informed about but aren't as equally
> >> important in the smallprint.
> >>
> >> Jifl
> >>
> > So the solution is to use smallprint so that the customer does not read
> > the confusing text. :-)
>
>
> Well, so they know that it probably isn't important for them to read for
> day-to-day use certainly :-) - but is there should they ever be interested
> in knowing (and there for proper acknowledgement).
>
> Have you ever read the Microsoft EULAs in their entirety? Somewhere in
> there are BSD licensed code too. :-)
>
>
> Jifl
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