Hi All.

I began navigating the code.

First of all, let me present the scenarios where we intend to run our code
::

a)
Our client-application, deployed on a vanilla Linux-Desktop, using WIFI to
communicate with a "normal" server running on a public IP-Address.

b)
Our client-application, flashed on a micro-controller, which interfaces
with a GPRS-module to communicate with the same "normal" server running on
a public IP-Address.


Following are the options ::


OPTION 1 :
========

Segregate the application-code in a way, so that all code "including and
below" Layer-4 (TCP) is end-device specific.

That means that for vanilla Linux-Desktop, we use the vanilla
Berkley-Socket SOCK_STREAM APIs.

For embedded, we utilize the extended-AT-command-set exposed by the
GPRS-module (which has been built over the embedded TCP/IP stack of the
GPRS-module).

Above approach works for both the end-devices, but suffers from the fact
that the extended-AT-command-set is not a standard, so deploying our
application on some other GPRS-module will require integration with some
other extended-AT-command-set.



OPTION 2 :
=========

Use lwIP for TCP-headers (Layer-4) in the application, and segregate the
application in such a way so that all code "including and below" Layer-3
(IP) is end-device specific.

That means that for vanilla Linux-Desktop, we use vanilla SOCK_RAW APIs,
with the default option of letting the API add the IP-header.

For embedded, we let the GPRS-module AP+BP handle the Layer3/Layer2/Layer1
functionality.

*Above seems feasible "logically", please confirm.*



OPTION 3 :
=========

Use lwIP for TCP-headers (Layer-4) and IP-headers (Layer-3) in the
application, and segregate the application in such a way so that all code
"including and below" Layer-2 is end-device specific.

Now, here is my biggest query ::

*Is it even logically-possible to separate the "Layer3 (IP) handling" (in
the application) from "Layer2 handling" (in the end-device)?  According to
the limited knowledge that I have, the IP-layer needs accesses to the
interfaces (as even evident from code in ip.c in lwIP). That would mean
that BOTH the Layer3-handling and Layer2- handling must be present in the
same code context? *



Kindly help resolve these architectural doubts ... I will be grateful no
end ...


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay


On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Ajay Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sylvain.
>
> Thanks a ton for the clarifications !!
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Sylvain Rochet <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ajay,
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 10:20:27PM +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
>> >
>> > I am sorry, I am not sure what is meant by an OS here.
>>
>> OS = FreeRTOS, ChibiOS, … understand something which provide multiple
>> loops using lightweight threads.
>>
>>
>> > I presume if there were an OS, then the environment would "not" be
>> > bare-metal (since we would be depending on the functionalities being
>> > provided by the OS) ?
>>
>> In embedded context, bare metal = everything runs in the main loop, no
>> threads, no context switch, no task priorities.
>>
>> For lwIP,
>>
>> NO_SYS = 1 = bare metal, lwIP event handler is integrated within the main
>> loop.
>>
>> NO_SYS = 0 = threaded, lwIP event handler runs within its own thread.
>>
>
> Well, that's it ...
>
> In the application that we have designed and coded so far, everything has
> been kept single-threaded only (so as now to have any dependency on any
> third-party embedded-device-vendors).
>
> So, it turns out, that we "do" need to use NO_SYS = 1
>
> But I get your point, it should be feasible to integrate the functionality
> with NO_SYS = 1 (though it might require some code-rearrangement in lwIP).
>
> Anyhow, if there are some examples of this particular scenario (NO_SYS =
> 1, everything within the main loop), kindly let know. It would save some
> time ticks for us :)
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
>
>
>>
>>
>> On a Linux/win32 host, everything obviously runs inside a heavy process,
>> but the bare metal vs threaded still apply.
>>
>>
>> Sylvain
>>
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>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ajay
>



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Ajay
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