There is no relationship between the two drafts from a content point of view. 
Tero talks about IKEv2 and this document talks about TLS/DTLS. 


The issues that I raised do, however, concern both documents. 

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Zhen Cao <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Hannes, 
>
>
>Thank you for this interesting draft.  I think energy aspect is also valuable 
>to look into. 
>
>
>One question, what the relationship with the Tero's ikev2 draft? Ikev2 has 
>certificate based authentication, what's the implication from your draft. 
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Zhen
>
>
>On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]> 
>wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have submitted a draft about minimal TLS in the spirit of the work that Tero 
>was doing.
>Working on the document, which you can find at 
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-lwig-tls-minimal-00.html, I 
>noticed the following issues:
>
>Just providing a writeup that illustrates how to implement a shared secret 
>based ciphersuite is not sufficient. The reason is that in certain cases 
>shared secret based variants do not meet the security requirements. Hence, 
>when we look at more than just a single ciphersuite then the question arises 
>where to stop looking at the various extensions. This is a scoping question.
>
>I don't think it makes sense to replicate the text from the original 
>specification. The document cannot violate the original specification itself. 
>It can only provide design tradeoffs.
>
>Ideally, to give engineers more guidance one would have to provide some code 
>size indications. Of course specific numbers only serve as an indication/hint 
>since the code size depends on the specific platform and the degree of 
>optimization applied to the code.
>
>Finally, there is the question whether codesize is the only aspect to look at. 
>What about memory requirements, bandwidth consumption, etc.?
>
>In a nutshell, to offer valuable guidance this could be a longer exercise. (I 
>would like to work with a few others on this topic. Does not sound fun to do 
>this alone. Maybe there even a chance to produce a lightweight TLS reference 
>implementation or so.)
>
>I wonder what others think.
>
>Ciao
>Hannes
>
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