Hi,

We have not updated the draft to change their names, but I agree they
definitely better fit in the LWIG. We would like to present them both
in LWIG in London.

Note Tero has been provided a 20 minute slot for an overview on "IPsec
in constrained environments". So people interested in IoT and security
should check the agenda at ipsecme too.

[1] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/agenda/agenda-89-ipsecme

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Sye Loong Keoh
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> As pointed out by Hannes, DICE WG is not chartered to look at IPSec for IoT.
> However, I think your draft might be useful for LWIG WG though.
>
> Cheers
> Sye Loong
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dtls-iot [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Migault
> Sent: Friday, 31 January, 2014 10:48 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: [Dtls-iot] IPsec/Diet-ESP for IoT and Minimal ESP
>
> Hi,
>
> Please find the two drafts we have just posted. They are about IPsec/ESP 
> minimal implementation and Diet-ESP designed for IoT.
>
> Comment are welcome!
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> Name:        draft-mglt-dice-diet-esp
> Revision:    00
> Title:        Diet-ESP: a flexible and compressed format for IPsec/ESP
> Document date:    2014-01-31
> Group:        Individual Submission
> Pages:        21
> URL:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mglt-dice-diet-esp-00.txt
> Status:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mglt-dice-diet-esp/
> Htmlized:http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mglt-dice-diet-esp-00
>
>
> Abstract:
>    IPsec/ESP has been designed to secure IP packets exchanged between
>    two nodes.  IPsec implements security at the IP layer which makes
>    security transparent to the applications, as opposed to TLS or DTLS
>    that requires application to implement TLS/DTLS.  As a result, IPsec
>    enable to define the security rules in a similar way one establishes
>    firewall rules.
>
>    One of the IPsec's drawbacks is that implementing security on a per
>    packet basis adds overhead to each IP packet.  Considering IoT
>    devices, the data transmitted over an IP packet is expected to be
>    rather small, and the cost of sending extra bytes is so high that
>    IPsec/ESP can hardly be used for IoT as it is currently defined in
>    RFC 4303.
>
>    This document defines Diet-ESP, a protocol that compress and reduce
>    the ESP overhead of IPsec/ESP so that it can fit security and energy
>    efficient IoT requirements.  Diet-ESP use already existing mechanism
>    like IKEv2 to negotiate the compression format.  Furthermore a lot of
>    information, already existing for an IPsec Security Association, are
>    reused to offer light negotiation in addition to maximum compression.
>
>
> Name:        draft-mglt-lwig-minimal-esp
> Revision:    00
> Title:        Minimal ESP
> Document date:    2014-01-31
> Group:        Individual Submission
> Pages:        6
> URL:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mglt-lwig-minimal-esp-00.txt
> Status:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mglt-lwig-minimal-esp/
> Htmlized:http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mglt-lwig-minimal-esp-00
>
>
> Abstract:
>    This document describes a minimal version of the IP Encapsulation
>    Security Payload (ESP) described in RFC 4303 which is part of the
>    IPsec suite.
>
>    ESP is used to provide confidentiality, data origin authentication,
>    connectionless integrity, an anti-replay service (a form of partial
>    sequence integrity), and limited traffic flow confidentiality.
>
>    This document does not update or modify RFC 4303, but provides a
>    compact description of the minimal version of the protocol.  If this
>    document and RFC 4303 conflicts then RFC 4303 is the authoritative
>    description.
>
>
> --
> Daniel Migault
> Orange Labs -- Security
> +33 6 70 72 69 58
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