El 12/11/13 09:35, PCMan escribió:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM, christ...@surlykke.dk <mailto:christ...@surlykke.dk> <christ...@surlykke.dk <mailto:christ...@surlykke.dk>> wrote:


    2013/11/12 Jerome Leclanche <adys...@gmail.com
    <mailto:adys...@gmail.com>>

        Yeah you mentioned this before. I'm not a fan of merging the
        two; the
        panel is especially a component users may want to change.

        This needs more thoughts but it's a bit too early to care about it
        imho. Maybe see what we do in the next 3-6 months and then
        decide on
        the two components.
        J. Leclanche


    I'd agree with Jerome. If I understand your mail you can save 6MB,
    which is nice for sure but not _that_ much. And in terms of
    functionality I don't see the panel and the runner as very closely
    related. Let's get things working first. And then, maybe, we can
    try to figure out how two applications can share a cache (of icons
    and such)...

    br. Chr.


        On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:05 AM, PCMan <pcman...@gmail.com
        <mailto:pcman...@gmail.com>> wrote:
        > Hello,
        > I just did some experiment yesterday.
        > On debian, lxde-qt now eats 109 MB of RAM after a cold boot.
        > On the same machine, the old lxde gtk+ version only used 85 MB.
        > (On archlinux, it uses about 150 - 210 MB depending on the
        machine.)
        > The difference is quite obvious. :-(
        > Though 109 MB is good, I think there's room to make it better.
        > The most memory hungry programs are pcmanfm-qt, lxqt-panel,
        and lxqt-runner.
        > I already tried to optimize pcmanfm-qt earlier but it's not
        possible to
        > squeeze much from it since the wallpaper is a huge bitmap
        and must eat some
        > RAM.
        > Other parts are hard to optimize as well. No obvious memory
        eater was found
        > during the profiling.
        > Much RAM was used by the icon pixmap cache, but it's
        inevitable. Otherwise
        > we'll get slow painting.
        > The other parts used most RAM were lxqt-panel, and then
        lxqt-runner.
        > I tried to put them together in the same binary, and tested
        it again.
        > If we merge lxqt-panel + lxqt-runner into a single process,
        the used RAM
        > becomes 103 MB after cold boot on the same machine.
        > The drawback of this approach is, we cannot have an
        independent lxqt-runner
        > program.
        > A simple way to fix this is making lxqt-runner a module -
        liblxqt-runner,
        > and let lxqt-panel load it.
        > When a standalone lxqt-runner program is wanted, we can have
        a simple
        > program lxqt-runner which loads the lib. Both lxqt-panel and
        lxqt-runner
        > share the same liblxqt-runner.
        > The drawback of this approach is also obvious. To make it a
        library, the
        > compiled code will be PIC, which is more inefficient and
        less optimized.
        > I'm not sure if this will really have impact on perceived
        performance.
        > Some more experiment needs to be done for it.
        >
        > Any comments?

OK, let's make it work first.
Thanks!

Hello:

PCman, as you, I also did some experiments to merge the different parts of the desktop such as lxqt-panel, lxqt-runner and even the pcmanfm-qt. My results tell me that we can save from 2 to 4 mb per application merged so I consider that this approach should not be dropped. If we make a modular design of each application we will be able to build then standalone and as module of a big application. Other problem that I found was that those application mainly the PcmanFm-qt are a bit unstable when you just put then together. I will keep working on this approach.

Best wishes

Alexis López Zubieta
Nova Light Development Team
University of Informatics Sciences (Cuba)
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