On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko <and...@rep.kiev.ua>wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Milan Nikolic has written on Sunday, 24 November, at 14:33:
> >So if I understood correctly, I could for example start openbox-session,
> >and in startup I could have lxqt-panel, pcmanfm-qt for desktop and
> >everything will more or less work?
>
> Well, it is basically what I have - I start lxpanel, pcmanfm, kmix,
> clipper and xscreensaver and set "C-A-Del" to end the session. :)
>
Starting things manually will work. See /usr/bin/startlxde-qt scripts to
see what's envrioment variables are needed.
Please also start dbus correctly.
>
> >And who sets XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP and what else will I have to do manually?
> >I don't quite understand what are the tasks session manager does.
>
> The XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP is used to change which items will appear in
> your system application menu (in panel for example). The XDG_MENU_PREFIX
> is used to change the menu layout.
>
Exactly.
>
> >Oh, and will you keep shutdown, suspend and rebootCommands?
>
> Currently, we use upower for this.
>
> >On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Jerome Leclanche <adys...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> The session manager is independent from the rest of lxqt. Going forward
> we
> >> will only officially support systemd, but users without it should be
> fine
> >> with a different session manager.
>
> Oh, I really dislike the "systemd way" tendency in some people minds.
> The systemd may be ok for some people but it's PITA if you wish any non
> predefined-by-default-install boot things or get into some problems with
> system interactions. So I'm highly against integration LXQT into systemd
> (yes, that seems exactly as integration, nothing more).
>
> Don't worry about this. Julien is aware of this issue.
Lxsession itself checks existance of consolekit, logind, and upower.
However in lxde-qt, this part is handled directly by liblxqt, not lxsession.
Systemd should be supported when it's available, but it won't be a hard
dependency.
It's a waste not to use the resources if they already exists in the system
by default.
For distros without systemd, such as ubuntu, debian, and BSD, we can work
without systemd as well.
When systemd can be used to manage the desktop session, we only need the
settings daemon part.
When we need to do session management ourselves, then lxsession will do it.
Better integration with systemd is a must-have nowadays since most distros
are migrating to it.
However, keeping it optional should not be too difficult.
So let's not worry about this at the moment.
> With best regards.
> Andriy.
>
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