Hi,

2014-05-09 11:53 GMT+02:00 Jerome Leclanche <adys...@gmail.com>:

> I'm very happy about our 0.7 release; only a couple of days in and
> it's a big success. We've seen increased activity, bug reports and
> overwhelmingly encouraging feedback on hacker news, reddit and other
> sources.
>
> When it comes to features and functional polishing, I'm quite
> confident we're set and we have the right people for it.
> The most common complaint about LXQt however is graphics, and I tend
> to agree. I've gotten used to the QtCurve look by now but the truth is
> it didn't age well.


but it's very rich of options (most of the widget styles on kde-look are
actually qtcurve presets) and, lucky, again in active development state.


> The alternative Qt 4 themes are .. simply awful.
> Oxygen is okay but unfortunately requires kdelibs, and has no Qt 5
> port that I know of.
>
> Functionally, there are a couple of points I wanted to raise.
> First of all, lxqt-notifications and lxqt-panel are heavy users of
> QSS. I love QSS but it's getting zero love in upstream Qt and I
> believe we will have to drop it.
> I think these two apps are actually great candidates to port to QML,
> which allows a lot more freedom and high level control over their
> looks. I'm not a big fan of QML myself but it's here and it's not
> going away, I also think it solves the use cases for our panel and
> notifications. I also think it'd be pretty well suited for
> lxqt-runner.
>
> The second point is about Qt 5. There's been spiking interest in
> finishing the port and we're actually almost there. As soon as the
> desktop fully compiles with Qt 5 I will switch the Arch packages to
> use that everywhere. I believe that this is something we need to
> finish first before anything can happen on the graphics side, as Qt 5
> has a very different set of widget themes.[1]
>
> Now, on to graphics themselves. There's several parts to take care of
> synchronously:
>  - Qt Widget theme, which controls the majority of the look and feel of Qt
> apps
>  - Icon and cursor themes
>  - Extra theming for LXQt apps (panel, notifications and runner
> styling for example)
>  - Wallpapers
>  - Display manager theme
>

I really like the "synchronously" approach to the issue. Imo the project
needs a clear, coherent "face".


>
> On the general look and feel of the desktop, something that was
> brought up before and that I've thought about myself is a flat look &
> feel. While it's somewhat trendy it's not universally approved so it
> would need to stay an option. Still, if it's an easier route it could
> use some focus.

On specifics, the Qt theme itself is very hard to control - very few
> graphics devs actually know how to deal with that stuff.
>

(a nightmare :/)


> Icon themes are easier mainly because there's already a large set to
> choose from.
>
> The three other items are easier dealt by graphics people. The problem
> is of course that we don't really have graphics people right now. So
> this email is also a call for artists, if anyone is willing to work on
> this please either reply to this email or contact me directly.
>

I hope there will be some people for a working group.

Caig


>
> Open to thoughts.
>
>
> [1]
> http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2012/10/30/cleaning-up-styles-in-qt5-and-adding-fusion/
>
> J. Leclanche
>
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