Apparently amazon cell phone apps fail to detect screen readers running and take appropriate login actions too.
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:42:31 > From: Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> > To: Jude DaShiell <[email protected]> > Cc: Alejandro Lieber <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon? > > Oh I can top that > the sign in page has no alt tags letting you know where to place e-mail > address or password, and is 15 pages long with no functional links on almost > all of them. > > > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > If you can't get past the graphical captcha that accessible page is > > useless. > > > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > >> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:29:43 > >> From: Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> > >> To: Jude DaShiell <[email protected]> > >> Cc: Alejandro Lieber <[email protected]>, [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon? > >> > >> Jude, > >> Your comment about the cell phone is quite important, because amazon is > >> presenting the www.amazon.com/access page for those wanting a simplified > >> experience, stating it is comparative to the mobile one. > >> Alejandro, I echo Jude's question about the audio challenge, since others > >> here even without using a screen reader, cannot play it. > >> Likewise I take it amazon is accepting all of your lynx cookies? You are > >> not > >> getting the error requesting that you turn cookies on? > >> lastly, which ms dos are you running, and how did you install that edition > >> of > >> Lynx? My understanding was that there were windows binaries only, not dos > >> ones. > >> While I do not wish to make this about the use of screen readers, I am > >> interested if your experience differs from those reported by others where > >> this amazon issue is concerned. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> > >>> I'm sure it does, you don't use a screen reader though which means you > >>> have no trouble with the captcha. Have you tried playing the audio > >>> challenge and if so were you able to hear it? What's happening with > >>> lynx and amazon is also happening on cell phones too. I did a factory > >>> reset on the cell phone and accessibility won't be enabled until Staff > >>> comes over and turns it on for me. > >>> > >>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Alejandro Lieber wrote: > >>> > >>>> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 07:00:13 > >>>> From: Alejandro Lieber <[email protected]> > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon? > >>>> > >>>> Karen: > >>>> > >>>> I use LYNX ver 2.9.0dev.1 in my MSDOS computer with a 40MHz Cyrix 486DLC > >>>> and 8 > >>>> MBy RAM and yellow Hercules monitor. Works great. > >>>> > >>>> Alejandro Lieber > >>>> > >>>> A port for MSDOS, by Ju?n Manuel Guerrero: > >>>> > >>>> "This is a port of Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 to MSDOS/DJGPP. > >>>> > >>>> ? DJGPP specific changes. > >>>> ? ======================= > >>>> ? This port is based on the current develop code of lynx (aka > >>>> lynx2.9.0dev.4) > >>>> ? available as: > >>>> https://invisible-mirror.net/archives/lynx/tarballs/lynx-cur.tar.bz2 > >>>> > >>>> ? The code has been adjusted to detect at runtime if LFN support is > >>>> available > >>>> ? or not.? If LFN support is available then the original posix style file > >>>> ? names will be used else DOS compatible ones will be used. > >>>> > >>>> ? The port will use cp850 as default code page instead of using > >>>> iso-8859-1 > >>>> as > >>>> ? it is in the current code.? It is clear that having iso-8859-1 on plain > >>>> DOS > >>>> ? as character set is useless as soon as spanish, german or other > >>>> non-english > >>>> ? texts shall be displayed.? You can always select another character set > >>>> by > >>>> ? either setting the corresponding environment variable or by editing > >>>> lynx.cfg > >>>> ? acordingly. > >>>> > >>>> ? The current version of lynx requires that the HOME environment variable > >>>> is > >>>> ? set to a writable directory or it will refuse to start.? To alleviate > >>>> this > >>>> ? situation, if HOME is not set, the current directory will be used > >>>> instead > >>>> ? by this port version. > >>>> > >>>> ? The port has been configured using the configure script provided by the > >>>> ? source package.? This means that neither old DJGPP specific scripts nor > >>>> ? makefiles distributed by the package have been used.? A lot of the > >>>> porting > >>>> ? work has been invested in the DJGPP specific configuration scripts. > >>>> > >>>> ? This port has been configured to be compiled with BZIP2, ZIP and > >>>> PDCURSES > >>>> ? support.? This means that if you want to recompile the preconfigured > >>>> sources > >>>> ? you must have installed the following ports: > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2apps/bz2-106ar2.zip > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/zlb1211b.zip > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/pdcur38a.zip > >>>> > >>>> ? The port has been configured and build without NLS support enabled. > >>>> ? To enable this feature, the latest ports of libiconv and gettext must > >>>> be > >>>> ? installed: > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/licv116b.zip > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/gtxt201b.zip > >>>> ? If you prefer NLS, then reconfigure the sources passing the nls flag to > >>>> the > >>>> ? config.bat file. > >>>> > >>>> ? The port has been configured with OPENSSL support.? OpenSSL support > >>>> requires > >>>> ? installing the WATT-32 port.? The following ports have been used: > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/ssl102sb.zip > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/wat3211b.zip > >>>> ? No other versions have been tested.? To be able to use this program > >>>> compiled > >>>> ? with OpenSSL and WATT-32 a noise source must be installed.? A noise > >>>> source > >>>> ? can be obtained as: > >>>> http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/noise063a2.zip > >>>> ? If for some reason you decide to reconfigure the source package, then > >>>> you > >>>> ? will have to set the WATT_ROOT environment variable to point to the > >>>> ? directory where the headers and the library reside.? This is: > >>>> ??? set WATT_ROOT=/dev/env/DJDIR/net/watt > >>>> > >>>> ? To be able to run the program, configuration files are expected to be > >>>> found > >>>> ? at their canonical place.? This is the /dev/env/DJDIR/etc directory.? > >>>> The > >>>> ? configuration files lynx.cfg and lynx.css are stored in the /etc > >>>> directory > >>>> ? and reflect, to certain extent, the conditions during the configuration > >>>> and > >>>> ? compilation process of this port.? You may need to adjust the entries > >>>> to > >>>> fit > >>>> ? your requiriments.? If lynx.cfg and lynx.css are not found at their > >>>> canonical > >>>> ? place then the program will try to load them from the installation > >>>> directory > >>>> ? of lynx.? To run the program, a working version of wattcp.cfg is > >>>> required. > >>>> ? This file is __NOT__ distributed with this port.? That file will > >>>> reflect > >>>> ? your network environment and hardware.? It is the user's job write > >>>> one that > >>>> ? matches his environment.? As a starting point you can use the one > >>>> distributed > >>>> ? with the WATT-32 port.? Please note that the location of wattcp.cfg > >>>> must > >>>> be > >>>> ? specified by setting the WATTCP.CFG environment variable.? This can be > >>>> done > >>>> ? either in the environment, in autoexec.bat or in djgpp.env.? If the > >>>> file > >>>> ? cannot be found at any of the canonical places the program will try > >>>> to load > >>>> ? it from the installation directory of lynx. > >>>> > >>>> ? To be able to run the program, a DOS packet driver (PKTDRVR) is > >>>> required. > >>>> ? This may be obtained from the card manufacturer or from one of the > >>>> archives > >>>> ? of packet drivers (such as > >>>> "http://www.lanet.lv/simtel.net/msdos/pktdrvr-pre.html"; > >>>> ? or > >>>> "http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pktdrvr/";). > >>>> ? Even when only browsing local files, a NULLPKT packet driver is > >>>> required > >>>> like > >>>> ? nullpkt.zip.? The zip file can be downloaded as: > >>>> http://www.jumpjet.info/Application-Software/DOS/Hardware/2/NULLPKT/NULLPKT.zip > >>>> > >>>> ? The lynx executable itself handles http:, https:, ftp:, file:, news:, > >>>> nntp: > >>>> ? and gopher: protocols. You will need external programs if you want to > >>>> access > >>>> ? telnet:, tn3270:, or mailto: URLs.? In this case a port of kermit may > >>>> be > >>>> ? required. > >>>> > >>>> ? Please note that lynx does _NOT_ support javascript at all.? So nothing > >>>> will > >>>> ? work that requires this feature.? If you need this, look for a > >>>> different > >>>> text > >>>> ? web browser. > >>>> > >>>> ? It is important to realize that this port is a _PURE_ DOS port.? If for > >>>> some > >>>> ? reason you want to use lynx under Windows, you should download a > >>>> windows > >>>> port > >>>> ? of lynx. > >>>> > >>>> ? If you decide to use this port as stand alone program then you can set > >>>> the > >>>> ? following environment variables to point to the required configuration > >>>> files: > >>>> ??? LYNX_CFG????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.cfg > >>>> ??? LYNX_LSS????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.lss > >>>> ??? WATTCP.CFG??? Set to the full path for the WATTCP.CFG directory > >>>> ??? SSL_CERT_FILE Set to the full path and filename for your file of > >>>> ????????????????? trusted certificates > >>>> ? As a last resort, if the above environment variables are not set, the > >>>> ? program will try to load those files from its installation directory. > >>>> ? There is also a batch file stored in the /share/lynx_doc/samples > >>>> directory > >>>> ? that shows how to run lynx as a stand alone application. > >>>> > >>>> ? The DJGPP port now checks the OS version it is running on.? If it is > >>>> equal > >>>> ? or less than MSDOS 6.22 the double quotes around the file name passed > >>>> to > >>>> ? edit.com will be removed.? If this is not done, edit.com refuses to > >>>> start. > >>>> ? For OS like Win95 and above this is not necessary.? edit.com is the > >>>> editor > >>>> ? used by lynx at last resort.? The program's behaviour is not changed if > >>>> an > >>>> ? editor different from edit.com is selected in lynx.cfg. > >>>> > >>>> ? The DJGPP port now checks if LFN support is available.? If available > >>>> then > >>>> ? files with a leading dot are allowed/supported in case that this has > >>>> been > >>>> ? allowed by setting NO_DOT_FILES to FALSE in lynx.cfg.? In all previous > >>>> ? versions, the setting of this value had absolute no influence in > >>>> program's > >>>> ? behavior if compiled with DJGPP. > >>>> > >>>> ? When connecting to a site via https, lynx will require that a file of > >>>> ? trusted certificates is available.? It is your's responsability to > >>>> create > >>>> ? such a file and the port will _NEVER_ provide one.? This .PEM file is > >>>> created > >>>> ? using openssl tools.? Read the openssl documentation.? A working linux > >>>> ? installation provides always one.? It may be found by its name > >>>> ca-bundle.pem > >>>> ? or similar.? In the end it must be a file in PEM format.? Store it > >>>> where > >>>> you > >>>> ? like and point to it by setting the corresponding lynx environment > >>>> variable > >>>> ? like this: > >>>> ??? set SSL_CERT_FILE=/dev/env/DJDIR/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.pem > >>>> ? Of course the value propossed is arbitrary and reflects the way I > >>>> have done > >>>> ? it for my own installation of lynx.? A starting point for reading about > >>>> how > >>>> ? to create your own PEM files is: > >>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/2002-12/msg00043.html > >>>> ? It describes how to create one using the trusted certificates provide > >>>> by > >>>> the > >>>> ? microsoft IE. > >>>> > >>>> ? I have tested this port by trying to access all sites that are listed > >>>> in: > >>>> https://royal.pingdom.com/using-web-browser-lynx-visit-top-websites/ > >>>> ? and I have experienced no issues.? I have also accessed some german and > >>>> ? spanish sites to check if the special native characters are correctly > >>>> ? displayed and I have found no issues.? I have also accessed > >>>> www.delorie.com > >>>> ? to check if the ftp support works well and if the cvs repository can be > >>>> ? accessed via cvsweb interface and everthing works flawlessly. Of > >>>> course, > >>>> ? the mail archives can also be accessed without issues. > >>>> > >>>> ? Please note that I am not a lynx user.? I have ported it as a real > >>>> world > >>>> ? test for the OpenSSL and WATT-32 ports. > >>>> > >>>> ? Only to make this point clear, if you want to use lynx as a stand alone > >>>> ? program without having to care about environment variables, copy > >>>> lynx.exe, > >>>> ? lynx.cfg and lynx.lss into the same directory and it will work. When > >>>> copying > >>>> ? the .PEM file it must be renamed to "cert.pem".? This is mandatory or > >>>> it > >>>> will > >>>> ? not be found! > >>>> > >>>> ? As usual, all djgpp specific files (diffs, README files, etc.) are > >>>> stored > >>>> ? in the /djgpp directory.? The sources have been configured to be build > >>>> in > >>>> ? the "_build" directory.? If for some reason it does not work for you, > >>>> ? delete it contents and configure from scratch again. > >>>> > >>>> ? Please read the docs very __CAREFULLY__ to become familiar with the > >>>> product. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ? Here is an extract of the CHANGES file showing the user visible changes > >>>> from > >>>> ? the last port (Lynx 2.9.0dev.1) to this one: > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> 2019-08-26 (2.9.0dev.4) > >>>> * revert change to port-handling in 2.9.0dev.3 changes for gophermap > >>>> (report > >>>> by > >>>> ? Martijn Dekker). > >>>> * add ro.po, update de.po, et.po, tr.po, vi.po from > >>>> http://translationproject.org/latest/lynx > >>>> > >>>> 2019-08-25 (2.9.0dev.3) > >>>> * modify gophermap menu-parsing to handle "h" HTML selectors similarly to > >>>> the > >>>> ? command-line parsing, which avoids hex-encoding the parameter > >>>> delimiters > >>>> ? "?", "=", ";" as well as "#" (report by Tobias Girstmair) -TD > >>>> * make redirection-limit configurable, defaulting to 10 -TD > >>>> * remove alert when relative base href is seen, since HTML5 allows for > >>>> this > >>>> ? (report by Sylvain Bertrand) -TD > >>>> * modify lynx.iss to use statically-linked bzip2 and gzip programs, and > >>>> to > >>>> ? eliminate a spurious warning when attempting to remove an optional DLL > >>>> -TD > >>>> * fix a few coverity warnings -TD > >>>> * revise HTSimplify to eliminate a redundant "." segment at the beginning > >>>> of a > >>>> ? path, referring to RFC 3986 5.2.4 (report by Alejandro Lieber) -TD > >>>> > >>>> 2019-07-31 (2.9.0dev.2) > >>>> * improved several configure macros, including workaround for non-POSIX > >>>> ? issue with BSDs. > >>>> * fix typo in iso15_uni.tbl (Robert Bell) > >>>> * update de.po from > >>>> http://translationproject.org/latest/lynx > >>>> * update config.guess (2019-06-10), config.sub (2019-06-30) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ? The port consists of the usual three packages that have been produced > >>>> using > >>>> ? djdev205 (CVS repository code) and can be downloaded from > >>>> ftp.delorie.com > >>>> ? and mirrors as (time stamp 2019-08-31): > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 binaries, scripts and man format documentation: > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4b.zip > >>>> > >>>> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 html format documentation and sample files: > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4d.zip > >>>> > >>>> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 source: > >>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4s.zip > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ? Send Lynx utils specific bug reports to <[email protected]>. > >>>> ? Send suggestions and bug reports concerning the DJGPP port to > >>>> ? comp.os.msdos.djgpp or <[email protected]>. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Enjoy. > >>>> > >>>> ??? Guerrero, Juan Manuel <[email protected]> > >>>> > >>>> On 1/9/19 00:18, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >>>>> Thomas, Ian, > >>>>> Thomas I? personally can do nothing whatsoever with the snapshop. > >>>>> because > >>>>> of? how I use a computer,? and the lack of pure dos compiles of Lynx > >>>>> recently, my only access to the browser, or to the internet in general > >>>>> comes? via? using ssh telnet to reach shellworld. > >>>>> Ian, if you choose to access this snapshot, can you test for > >>>>> improvements? > >>>>> I will likely have to wait first for its incorporation into a lynx > >>>>> edition, > >>>>> then? to how? these changes might be incorporated into shellworld before > >>>>> I > >>>>> try. > >>>>> Regardless I am reporting to Amazon, so a test of some kind will be > >>>>> helpful. > >>>>> Kare > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lynx-dev mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lynx-dev mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > > -- _______________________________________________ Lynx-dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
