Hi Bo,
I found it a difficult to get the feeling/purpose behind your post... I
wouldn't be surprised if it (or its purpose) is misunderstood. So take my
response in that vein - at least I start from the approach that probably
have gotten you completely wrong :-)
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Bo Peng wrote:
It is a pity that you decide to maintain your own installer. Although
not everyone agrees with my attack to your inclusion of LyxWinInstaller
in the trunk, I am pretty sure that nobody likes having two independent
windows installers.
I think your attack was bad. Naugthy Bo, bad Bo! SCNR :-)
Your decision makes me wonder what I would do if I am in your shoes.
My answer is that I would either listen to others' opinion and work on
the official installer, or fight a better war against a bad guy like
Bo. Maintaining an installer without acknowledgements from peer
developers is out of the question.
I've gotten the impression Uwe is upset because he feels Joost took his
code, got it in SVN and now the official installer is "Joost's", although
the original initiative was Uwe's, and he did a *lot* of the work (not
even counting all the support/troubleshooting Uwe has done later on). So
it really is about acknowledgments from peers. Personally I'm a stubborn
bastard^H^H^H^H^H^H person, so I'd have a big problem with something like
this.
Uwe, for what it's worth, you certainly have my respect/acknowledgement.
I've also seen many other posts from developers that acknowledge your
work, so I'm not alone in this.
There are currently not many differences between the two installers and
bundling or not is not a huge deal. I really do not understand why it is
so difficult for you to give up some of your ideas. After all, when you
decide to work in an open source project like lyx, you already accept an
implicit rule: majority rules. Insisting on your own ideas lead to,
well, what you have seen.
See the bit above - I think that explains it. I'd also be annoyed with how
extremely long it took to get SVN access, although that had nothing to do
with the installer. And then Joost was out of touch etc... Crappy timing
always makes things worse.
Then, what if you believe you are right, and obviously some users and
developers are at your side, but a bad guy named Bo just does not get
it? You need to realize that Bo speaks only for himself, and his opinion
is as important as yours. What you need to do is try as best as you can
to persuade other developers, propose a poll, ask your supporters to
speak, show complaints from your users ... I would certainly shut up if
you get a majority of the votes to replace the official installer with
yours. And in case that you still fail, you will get enough opinions to
re-think about your ideas.
My impression is that a majority of the developers are *for* letting Uwe
keep his stuff in SVN, regardless of other issues. (The developers against
would be Bo and possibly Joost).
And that the majority of the developers would like to see Uwe and Joost
collaborate goes without saying.
More hugs!
/Christian
PS. It's good to have nice Saturdays after bitchy Fridays.
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Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
