Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:
Maybe, it is a HIG interpretation thing, but I'm seriously doubting that
the HIG says that content-related stuff like the "Document settings..."
must be in the File menu.
Correct. (but I still think it is the right place)
Things like page setup do not influence the
content of the document in any way, besides how it is printed.
This also holds for the Statistics item, it is really not just a file
statistic. It is something that is used while generating content,
something that influences whether I can add another sentence to the
abstract or not. It also counts words in a selection. So, it is not
really a file statistic.
Indeed. (But you could say the same for Document. IMO File and Document
is the same thing.)
In conclusion, the interpretation of the argument that it is
file-specific and that it is saved with the document might be
reconsidered, because I feel that this only holds for file-specific
options that do not influence the content in any way.
Very open to this.
Last, I agree that it is a good approach to look at independent,
well-thought HIGs, ...
Can this be our main-line-of-argumentation?
I think it is the only way how to come up with something consistens.
> For example, LyX users are used to
having a Document->Settings... Item. They will be disturbed if they have
to look for one of the most important menu items.
IMO - no, no, no. If we start to care about legacy, nothing good will
come out.
I dreamt last night of a Document menu with the grouped tools (They
really must be next to each other, otherwise I will be looking for them
over and over again).
DOCUMENT MENU:
- Spellchecker, that checks my document for spelling errors,
- Thesaurus, just because it is next to the Spellchecker,
- Statistics, counting words in my document or in specific parts of my
document,
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- Branching, all options in the document->settings dialog are stored in
the document except branching information, that is filtered out by LyX
itself, so it deserves an item on its own.
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- Settings..., one of the most important menu items IMO, which users
will find when it's in the Document menu, .. Oh and it does of course
say something about the document.
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1) Can you please define what the Document menu is good for (in a
future-compatible abstract way)? Any HIG?
2) You are on Windows? The list of things you gave for your "Document"
menu is mostly what Word and friends have as "Tools" menu? In fact, such
a Tools menu is part of the XP/Vista HIG. So if we have such a group of
things, let us at least call it "Tools". We start to mix HIG's though.
/Konrad
