On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Helge Hafting wrote:

Konrad Hofbauer wrote:
 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>  Can you point to a program where _all_ document-level settings are in
>  File menu? We shall not over-interpret the HIG.

 I do not have much to compare to by hand, only OO 2.3 and Word 2003.

 Word 2003 has the Page Setup in File, OO has "Properties" in File.
 Both of them don't have a Document menu. Both have (a Windows-HIG) Tools
 menu.

FWIW, I like having a separate menu for 'document' related issues. I used LyX again quite recently after not having used it for a _long_ time, so long that I'd had time to forget there was a document menu. (Back when I was a regular user, it was so long ago that document settings were somewhere else). However, even me not really being used to the location of the document settings, I found it quickly and it soon felt "right".

 What is the difference between file and document in the first place ???

A document may consist of several files. For example, the book where each chapter is a file of its own. "Document settings" matter only for the master document file, when you print/export the book. The chapter files may have their own settings, but they are used only if you print chapter files separately.

I think Helge makes a very good point here. A file and a document aren't necessarily the same. (FWIW, I did my thesis as a multi-part document as he describes it so the use case isn't that uncommon.)

Having said the above and sounding negative, I think it's great that you are looking at menu structure in a structured way!
/Christian

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