On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 02:13:20PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:

> Amipro had wonderful user-configurable toolbars.

We (or at least Qt) can easily do hanging icon menus from toolbar items.

> I'm not sure custom
> panels are really going to be that useful -- except as an interim
> solution until mutliple/rolling/custom toolbars are available -- as
> they'll be fiddly to setup and then require two clicks to select.  A

Not in the GUI I'm thinking of. Basically the icon menu could hang off a
toolbar item, be its own dialog, or whatever.

> custom toolbar would only require 1 click and offer the possibility of
> keyboard bindings based on toolbar icon position (as an extension of
> binding some arbitrary key sequence to "self-insert ding123" for
> example).

sure

> The bottom of the menu has one of these "�" pointing downwards which
> you have to click to reveal the extra entries.  In some cases it seems
> to expose only two or three extra entries and to make things worse
> these extra entries usually get entered somewhere within the existing
> drop-down not just tacked on the end.

I've never liked these even in dialogs, where they have a much greater
justification. In menus just sounds lame.

>  Fortunately there is a
> configuration option to disable this lame-brained idea... but you have
> to search to find it by clicking on a few of those "�".

hilarious :)

Sounds very much like the "o Don't suck" pref Havoc talks about :

http://www106.pair.com/rhp/free-software-ui.html

And certain LyX preferences that have recently fallen by the wayside >:)

> Or getting someone like you or Rob to reorganise the menu order into
> something useful?  But I suppose they have their baggage they have to
> carry around: word 2 had a X menu that included an entry for Y, so Y
> should always be under X even though we now have another menu Z that
> is more appropriate.

I tried to use word a few years ago. The toolbars took up half the
screen. I could barely use it ...

regards
john
-- 
"It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims."
        - Aristotle

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