I don't demand from my secretaries that they write scripts to find the
reports all cases of a particular operation (myomectomies) which I have
performed in a particular manner (20nce 2004)

cat > t.tex <<EOF
\multicolumn{1}{|c|}{Surname} &
\multicolumn{1}{l|}{File Number} &
pcregrep -M '^FileNr:\n.*\n^\s?\d{4}\n' \
        $(grep -l 'serosa with V-Lock' 20[01]?/*myomectomy*.lyx) \
| perl -p -e  'BEGIN{undef $/;} s/myomectomy.lyx//gi;
s/FileNr:\n\\series default\n//smgi' \
| awk -F\/ '{print substr(toupper($2),1,1) substr($2,2),"&\\\\\\hline"}' \
| sort -t: -k2 \
| sed 's/: / \& /g' >> t.tex
cat >>t.tex <<EOF
tex2lyx -f t.tex
rm -f t.tex
open t.lyx

but I do expect them to be able to print the resulting page(s) from LyX
so they can pull the corresponding (paper) files so I can look at the
outcome (pregnancy).

Talking about computer-unsavvy:

The wife of a friend of mine demands that he install MSWord for her
because she was using it in a course. He installs NeoOffice. She then
gives him a serious hard time demanding he install MSWord or else
because she could not print her paper.

So he asks her how she printed in the course: "I click on the printer"
(button). So he tells her to look for a button that looked similar to a
printer. She finds it, cklicks and nothing happens.

So, of course, she proceeds to give him a serious hard time demanding
he install MSWord or else!

A minute later their 10 year old comes out of the living room where he
has been playing on the XBox with a few printed pages and says: "Did
someone print this on the printer in the living room?"

You can not ask from collaborators to set up a GIT repo, but, yes, you
can ask collaborators using LyX anyway, to check out/in LyX files from
within LyX (because it hides GIT quite well).

Nobody is saying it's silly because Microsoft does it. Nobody is even
saying it's silly.

It's difficult. And it's not really necessary.

12 years ago I was writing all my practice documents in LyX (already).
Got them all sorted (see the script above).

ODF documents come along as a ZIP file which has bunches of files inside...

And, my observation over the years (linux user # 1387 :-)-O), the
people squealing loudest for features in Open Source software are the
ones that fund the least.

greetings, el

On 30/07/2017 21:19, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> It may also mean "people without spare time trying to move on with
> their lives".
> Seriously, and forgive me for the off-topic here, but it seems that on
> this thread is slowly surfacing one of the worst sins of open source
> communities: the attitude of "it's easy for me, then it must be easy
> for you too, you lazy looser".
> Well, usually it's not easy. And people is neither lazy nor lousy nor
> anything. For most people on the world computers are just boxes they
> use to complete a task they don't even want to do. There is nothing
> they should be ashamed of if they don't care about the "superiority
> of X approach compared to the evil Y", specially if X requires a long
> learning process.
> You cannot tell a normal person "if you want to write in
> collaboration, just use git". You cannot say to anyone, not even to
> me, someone that's been using Linux as his main system for the last
> two decades, to "use make". That attitude is not only wrong, it is
> one of the main reasons why we are still a minority on the consumer
> market. If your answers are targeted to computer wise persons, only
> computer wise person will listen to you.
> As I said, I started to use F(L)OSS almost two decades ago. I'm using
> LyX since before it switched to Qt. Back then I compiled every new
> version by myself. But even with my experience I would have loved to
> have an "everything within the file" file format when, twelve years
> ago, I was writing my PhD thesis on LyX: at the time I did not had an
> internet connection at home so syncing all the files was a real PITA.
> Even now, in a time with automated backup utilities, usb drives and
> cloud storage I found the lack of an easy way to work on a "project"
> instead of "fiddling with several folders, each with dozens if not
> hundreds of files" quite cumbersome.
> And another thing: the fact that MS implemented some idea does not
> means the idea is bad, saying so it's silly. A lot of F(L)OSS projects
> use "all within the file" file formats: ODF, and open source ISO
> standard, it's just a bunch of xml files and folders comfortably
> packed on a zip file. Also, can you even imagine what would be to work
> on krita or gimp if those projects just save all layers and masks on
> different files?
> Please, people, think a bit on real users, not just on yourselves.
> Thanks. [end of off-topic]
> Regards,
> Ricardo

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