Indeed, using the options of bullets in the document setting itself is a
good idea. The simplest probably.
Thanks Udi
Pierig
On 21/08/2022 19:14, Udicoudco wrote:
> Thanks Steve, I have a lot to read.... I have started by
> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/self_publish_lyx.htm just to get
> along with your tutorials and the way you wrote them.
>
> As I am not always focused, I have tried to add that in my layout file:
>
> Style Dialogue
> LatexType Environment
> LatexName dialog_l
> ParSep 0.5
>
> Font
> Shape Bold
> EndFont
> Preamble
> \newenvironment{dialog_l}
> {
> \begin{list}{}
> \item[---]
> }
> {
> \par
> \end{list}
> }
> EndPreamble
> End
>
> But that doesn't work at all. It leads to what I was afraid of. The
> first line of my dialog has the — sign, but not the others...
>
>
> I definitely have much more reading to do, but if you have an obvious
> solution to my problem, I'll be happy with it. Still, starting to be
> late for me. I'll see that another day.
>
>
> Pierig
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21/08/2022 13:01, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Sun, 2022-08-21 at 11:04 +0800, pierig wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have been using Lyx for years, and I am very happy with it. I am
> >> writing novels, so my needs are pretty simple. (I would happily share
> >> the novels here, but they are in French [Sci Fi])
> >>
> >> In a novel, I have two main type of text. The main one, and
dialogues. I
> >> was using "Quote" for the dialogues, convenient enough.
> > I think you're going to be quite pleased with making your own text
types (LyX-speak
> > "environments") instead of hijacking environments meant for other
purposes. You're
> > moving from two to three, but if your books are anything like
mine, now that you can
> > make your own types, you'll want more of them. Just as a for
instance, you have
> > dialog and thoughts, but what about narration? What about
narration of stories and
> > back stories? When you can make your own environments, the world
is your oyster.
> >
> >> But now I need a
> >> third one to show the thoughts of a character. Then I have decided to
> >> try to adapt the layout of "Book (standard class)"
> > I congratulate you on choosing Book class. It works with
everything, and it's very
> > adaptable. 7 of my 9 books use Book class, and I'd never again use
Koma or Memoir.
> >
> >> I have looked at some advice on the net and manage to add a
/dialogue/
> >> and /pensée/ (thoughts). For /dialogue/ it should be an itemized
style,
> >> (in French we add — for each change of speaker). Which means the code
> >> for first line of a dialogue, the last line of dialogue and other
lines
> >> of dialogues are different
> >>
> >> *1st line*
> >>
> >> \begin{itemize}
> >> \item
> >>
> >>
> >> *other lines*
> >> \item
> >>
> >>
> >> *last line*
> >> \item
> >>
> >> \end{itemize}
> > I'm confused about the preceding. Are you intending to insert ERT
code "/item"
> > between every speaker? Doing so would make for slow authoring.
> >
> >>
> >> Would you have any advice for where to look for this kind of
> >> modification which doesn't involve a single line? For a single
line, I
> >> have done something very simple as a try, but I don't have any
idea for
> >> this multiple line problem
> >>
> >>
> >> Example of single line:
> >>
> >> Style Pensée
> >> LatexType Environment
> >> LatexName pensee_l
> >> ParSep 0.7
> >>
> >> Font
> >> Shape Italic
> >> EndFont
> >> Preamble
> >> \newenvironment{pensee_l}
> >> {
> >> \itshape
> >> }
> >> {
> >> \par
> >> }
> >> EndPreamble
> >> End
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help.
> > I suggest you find the LaTeX source for the Book document class
standard paragraph.
> > I don't remember where it is, but other people do. Modify as
needed for each of your
> > desired environments.
> >
> > Having the first and last whatever different from the middle ones
might require
> > three different paragraph styles. I think LyX has a "next style"
property you can
> > put in the LyX part of the environment definition, so that pretty
much makes
> > everything except the last whatever automatic.
> >
> > Here's a doc I wrote 13 years ago discussing making your own
layout file:
> >
> > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/surefire_layout.htm
> >
> >
> > Also read http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm .
It's almost 20
> > years old, but it has ways to modify existing LaTeX environments
without rewriting
> > them from scratch. Combined with CopyStyle, this just might
simplify your task.
> >
> > If you ever need to make your own list environments, see
> > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm
> >
> > Actually, you might want to acquaint yourself with my whole LyX
subsite,
> > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ , which links to quite a few
LyX documents.
> >
> > SteveT
> >
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Hello,
I'm not certain what layout you are trying to create, but I hope the
following information will help you.
To address your specific problem, you can just copy the itemize layout
already defined in lyx and customize it, you can find the description
of the layout in the file stdlist.inc. The layout is defined as follows:
Style Itemize
Category List
Margin Static
LatexType Item_Environment
LatexName itemize
NextNoIndent 1
ToggleIndent Never
LeftMargin MMN
LabelSep xx
ItemSep 0.2
TopSep 0.7
BottomSep 0.7
ParSep 0.3
Align Block
AlignPossible Block, Left
LabelType Itemize
HTMLTag ul
HTMLItem li
HTMLLabel NONE
Argument item:1
LabelString "Custom Item|s"
Tooltip "A customized item string"
EndArgument
End
You can change the bullets of this layout via Document->Settings->Bullets.
If you want to understand the commands in this description, you
should read section 5.3.7 of the customization guide which comes with
lyx, and can be found in Help->Customization, and after that look at
module and inc files for some examples.
Another way to customize lists in lyx is with the enumitem package. In
Document->Modules you should have the module "Customisable Lists
(enumitem)". This module has a manual in here
<http://www.lyx.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/7195/enumitem-example.lyx>,
and if you want to use it you should probably also read the enumitem
documentation.
Regards,
Udi
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