Its Fluxbox! I couldn't bring myself to install KDE, you can imagine that for a Fluxbox user that might be a step too far! So I installed MATE, and Lyx appears to start up quite normally, all the recently opened files are there, and it looks like it will work. That's a relief, at least its going to be possible to run it. The next step will be to try and find a Fluxbox alternative, maybe a tiling WM, and see if that works. Also it gives something definite to go on, and I can take it to the Fluxbox list. A pity because I've found Fluxbox just about perfect. Obviously its not for everyone.
Thanks again for the suggestions. Peter On Wed, 01 Nov 2023 09:52:08 +0000 lyx-users-requ...@lists.lyx.org wrote: > Send lyx-users mailing list submissions to > lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lyx-users-requ...@lists.lyx.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lyx-users-ow...@lists.lyx.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of lyx-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 (Folsk Pratima) > 2. Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 (Folsk Pratima) > 3. Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 (Peter) > 4. Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 (Folsk Pratima) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 10:22:54 +0200 > From: Folsk Pratima <folsk0prat...@cock.li> > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 > Message-ID: <20231101102254.69039...@void.wired-node-303707.moe> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > See here: > http://lists.lyx.org/pipermail/lyx-users/2023-November/005981.html > > Something went wrong and I created a new thread... > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 10:23:48 +0200 > From: Folsk Pratima <folsk0prat...@cock.li> > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 > Message-ID: <20231101102348.022a8...@void.wired-node-303707.moe> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > :'( > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 08:47:18 +0000 > From: Peter <peter.northe...@gmail.com> > To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> > Subject: Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 > Message-ID: <20231101084718.64a4bde4@silverstone> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Thanks so much for the suggestions! > > I ran (as myself) QT-DEBUG, and the same thing happened. Blank screen, but > lyx was showing in the bottom fluxbox menu bar, so I quickly closed the app > and managed to avoid the crash, and thus was able to copy the terminal > output. It was as follows. Sorry, its very long. It means nothing to me. > I'm a long time Debian user, but no sort of serious programming background. > > I'll have a go with some of the other suggestions next. I guess one obvious > one is to install KDE andtry it with that, since someone reports having no > problems with that on Debian 12. Can always take it out afterwards. Or > maybe beta 2.4. > > Peter > > [regular user]~$ QT_DEBUG_PLUGINS=1 lyx > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqeglfs.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqeglfs.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "eglfs" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QEglFSIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("eglfs") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqlinuxfb.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqlinuxfb.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "linuxfb" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QLinuxFbIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("linuxfb") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqminimal.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqminimal.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "minimal" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QMinimalIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("minimal") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqminimalegl.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqminimalegl.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "minimalegl" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QMinimalEglIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("minimalegl") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqoffscreen.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqoffscreen.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "offscreen" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QOffscreenIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("offscreen") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqvnc.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqvnc.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "vnc" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QVncIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("vnc") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-egl.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-egl.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "wayland-egl" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QWaylandEglPlatformIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("wayland-egl") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-generic.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-generic.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "wayland" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QWaylandIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("wayland") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-xcomposite-egl.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-xcomposite-egl.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "wayland-xcomposite-egl" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QWaylandXCompositeEglPlatformIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("wayland-xcomposite-egl") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-xcomposite-glx.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqwayland-xcomposite-glx.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "wayland-xcomposite-glx" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QWaylandXCompositeGlxPlatformIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("wayland-xcomposite-glx") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "xcb" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QXcbIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("xcb") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path "/usr/bin/platforms" > ... > loaded library "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so" > loaded library "Xcursor" > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platformthemes" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platformthemes/libqgtk3.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platformthemes/libqgtk3.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformThemeFactoryInterface.5.1", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "gtk3" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QGtk3ThemePlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("gtk3") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/bin/platformthemes" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts/libcomposeplatforminputcontextplugin.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts/libcomposeplatforminputcontextplugin.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPlatformInputContextFactoryInterface.5.1", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "compose", > "xim" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QComposePlatformInputContextPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("compose", "xim") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts/libibusplatforminputcontextplugin.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts/libibusplatforminputcontextplugin.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPlatformInputContextFactoryInterface.5.1", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "ibus" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QIbusPlatformInputContextPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("ibus") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/bin/platforminputcontexts" ... > loaded library > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts/libibusplatforminputcontextplugin.so" > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/styles" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path "/usr/bin/styles" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqgif.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqgif.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QImageIOHandlerFactoryInterface", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "gif" > ], > "MimeTypes": [ > "image/gif" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QGifPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("gif") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqico.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqico.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QImageIOHandlerFactoryInterface", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "ico", > "cur" > ], > "MimeTypes": [ > "image/vnd.microsoft.icon", > "image/vnd.microsoft.icon" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QICOPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("ico", "cur") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqjpeg.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqjpeg.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QImageIOHandlerFactoryInterface", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "jpg", > "jpeg" > ], > "MimeTypes": [ > "image/jpeg", > "image/jpeg" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QJpegPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("jpg", "jpeg") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqsvg.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqsvg.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QImageIOHandlerFactoryInterface", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "svg", > "svgz" > ], > "MimeTypes": [ > "image/svg+xml", > "image/svg+xml-compressed" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QSvgPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("svg", "svgz") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/bin/imageformats" ... > loaded library "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqgif.so" > loaded library "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqico.so" > loaded library > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqjpeg.so" > loaded library "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqsvg.so" > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/accessiblebridge" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/bin/accessiblebridge" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/accessible" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/bin/accessible" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines/KIconEnginePlugin.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines/KIconEnginePlugin.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QIconEngineFactoryInterface", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "KIconEngine" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "KIconEnginePlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("kiconengine") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines/libqsvgicon.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines/libqsvgicon.so, metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QIconEngineFactoryInterface", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "svg", > "svgz", > "svg.gz" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QSvgIconPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("svg", "svgz", "svg.gz") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/bin/iconengines" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/xcbglintegrations" ... > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/xcbglintegrations/libqxcb-egl-integration.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/xcbglintegrations/libqxcb-egl-integration.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.Xcb.QXcbGlIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.5", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "xcb_egl" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QXcbEglIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("xcb_egl") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/xcbglintegrations/libqxcb-glx-integration.so" > Found metadata in lib > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/xcbglintegrations/libqxcb-glx-integration.so, > metadata= > { > "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.Xcb.QXcbGlIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.5", > "MetaData": { > "Keys": [ > "xcb_glx" > ] > }, > "archreq": 0, > "className": "QXcbGlxIntegrationPlugin", > "debug": false, > "version": 331520 > } > > > Got keys from plugin meta data ("xcb_glx") > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > "/usr/bin/xcbglintegrations" ... > loaded library > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/xcbglintegrations/libqxcb-glx-integration.so" > loaded library > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines/libqsvgicon.so" > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/xcbglintegrations/libqxcb-glx-integration.so" > > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines/libqsvgicon.so" > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqgif.so" > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqico.so" > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqjpeg.so" > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/imageformats/libqsvg.so" > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts/libibusplatforminputcontextplugin.so" > > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so" > QLibraryPrivate::unload succeeded on "Xcursor" (faked) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 11:51:53 +0200 > From: Folsk Pratima <folsk0prat...@cock.li> > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1 > Message-ID: <20231101115059.43f4c...@void.wired-node-303707.moe> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 08:47:18 +0000 > Peter <peter.northe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path > > "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms" ... > > QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at > > ... > > The irony is that your debug log is like mine minus qt5ct plus some > KIconEnginePlugin, so it does not look like there are any errors. > Except I'm not a developer as well, so I may well be wrong. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer 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