>>Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:57:45 +0100
>>From: Koen Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Jean-Pierre.Chretien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: Screen shots in LyX - (or: png, jpeg into LyX-documents)
>>
>>On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 08:31:26AM +0100, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote:
>>> >>Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:47:57 +0100
>>> >>From: Koen Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>To: Janus Sandsgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>Subject: Re: Screen shots in LyX - (or: png, jpeg into LyX-documents)
>>> >>
>>> >>On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 06:47:32PM +0100, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Screen shots in LyX - (or: png, jpeg into LyX-documents)
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> I am writing a manual using LyX (and I love it!), and need to include some
>>> >>> screen shots in my LyX-document. What is the most easy way to do this?
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> I am on a machine primary running KDE with Screen Capture which delivers
>>> >>> png.
>>> >>
>>> >>I would suggesting using kview to load the png file. Then save the file from 
>>> kview as 'encapsulated postscript' or eps. Next, you would insert the figure in 
>>> lyx using Insert --> Figure --> Inlined EPS. Then one would interactivelly 
>>> select the saved .eps (or encapsulated postscript file), and set appropriate 
>>> width and height and other options.
>>> 
>>> This conversion produces bitmapped eps, which does not support very
>>> well resizing when the picture is vector-like as a screenshot.
>>> My own experience leads to get the right size before
>>> conversion and insert eps as default.
>>Thanks for pointing that out. I usually have eps instantly available and usually use 
>xv for 
conversion if this is not the case. But it seems xv is usually not availble on kde 
based 
distributions so i suggested kview.
>>Anyway, on the point of vector orientation with screenshots. This depends on the 
>nature of 
the screenshot. If the screenshot includes lots of fancy menu's and icons and other 
graphical 
formatting, it might be more bitmap oriented i'd argue.

I didn't mean that, I agree. What I pointed out is that screenshots are vector-like
because of the numerous straight lines, rectangles, characters, etc. but are bitmap
by way of capture procedure. Any software able to reconstruct the vectors from the 
bitmap
(would look like a graphical OCR) ?


>>
>>Anyway, it is safe to conclude there are many ways of converting (or even obtaining) 
screenshots and the best way depends on your application. 

That's not true: the best way is to keep it of good quality in the printed documents,
whatever the application. If you don't understand (and I truly not claim here to have 
understood all the odds and ends of image conversion) the basics of image manipulation,
resolution and conversion, you will get into trouble. These are not application 
dependent,
they are truly depending on the current state of the art of image format.

To be (very) short:
 - drawings with characters: goto to EPS, convert from there
 - screenshots: goto PNG if no native EPS available  (may happen with good quality 
 applications), avoid conversion to EPS unless you're aware of the pitfalls 
 - pictures: goto JPEG, EPS conversion bearable due to natural texture anti-aliasing,
 resolution depnds on the original compression factor (this is true for PNG as well, 
AFAIU).
 
You want to know more ? understand the various options of Imagemagick convert/mogrify
(may take some time).

>>
>>A question to conclude this mail: what is the difference between the two options one 
>gets 
when insert->figure'ing ?
 
Which options ? I lots the track there.

-- 
Jean-Pierre

 

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