On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 18:01, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 05:34:43PM +0100, Paco Cruz wrote:
> > >  \leavevmode\leaders\hrule height 3pt\hfill\kern0mm
> > 
> > Curious as I am, I have fiddled with the command and found that 
> > 
> > \leaders\hrule.... works ok too, (what's \leavevmode for?)
> 
> Hm. For leaving vmode ;-)  [Explained in Knuth's TeXbook]
> 
> > but I can't determine the rule height for subsequents calls to
> > \hrulefill.
> 
> Show me some code. I already forgot where we started off...
> > [...] Just to remember the old say "give them a fish and they eat once,
> > teach them to fish and they eat (almost) everyday" (excuse me if this is
> > not the exact English translation) :-)
> 
> The proper translation would be "..., teach them to fish and they throw
> bricks on your head for telling them to fiddle with string and hook instead
> of giving them fish" (modulo correct English)
 
I think I deserved such a response :-))

> > Could you (or someone) direct me to a link where I could learn about
> > those?
> 
> The TeXbook. This is freely available as .tex source als long as you don't
> compile it (or something to that effect). Nevertheless, it is readable in
> that form. But I am afraid this won't solve your problem in a few hours...
> 
> Andre'
> 
> -- 

You are right thought the bones :-)

I have found a pdf version of "The TeXbook" and a search for "\leaders"
and "\hrule got me to Chapter 21, pages 221 and 223. 

Now I think I understand a bit (just a bit) more about rules and leaders
in TeX :-)

That said, I must note that is very, very difficult to someone like me,
that has arrived to Lyx (and TeX/LaTeX) directly from the Word hell, to
"catch" with all the power and deep knowledge involved in a TeX/LaTeX
system. 

This list is an invaluable source of wisdom and advice. The Tips &
Tricks site by H. Voss is a lot of helpful, but in the end we must face
the need to swing in the waters of The TeXbook if we want to "control"
what Lyx/LaTeX has to offer. There is no free lunch :-) 

Thank you again

Paco Cruz



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