i am currently writing a paper (in lyx of couse) and my coauthor wanted the manuscript for editing. now, he uses word and only word. therefore i am forced to use some two-step method in order to generate a .rtf document he can open. at this point the 50 or so citation references have gone fubar. after my coauthor has finished editing the manuscript he will return it in .doc or .rtf format and i am going to either locate the changes he made and copy/paste those to my version of the manuscript - or reformat the entire manuscript again with lyx (includin the 50 citation refs).
if that is not horrible, i dont want to know what horrible is! martin On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 02:26:59PM -0700, Jack M. Lyon wrote: > > cons: > > ===== > > > > * lyx/word exchange is horrible > > That depends. There are lots of ways to get a LaTeX file out of a Word > document (got to use Word paragraph styles, though): > > http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/pc2txtbl.html > > Then use TeX2LyX or reLyX to bring the file into LyX. > > Also worth investigating would be saving a Word document as filtered HTML or > as XML and then using an HTML2LaTeX or XML2LaTeX converter, which you can > find on Google. > > And if you export a LyX document as HTML, you can open the HTML document > into Word. > > It's certainly not a perfect round-trip, but it's not bad, either. And I'm > not taking math into account. :) > > Best wishes, > Jack M. Lyon > ___________________________________________________ > > The EDITORIUM > Microsoft Word Add-Ins for Publishing Professionals > http://www.editorium.com > ___________________________________________________ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin A. Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:09 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: selling lyx part 2 > > > > > > hello again > > > > > > thank you very much for the input. > > > > apparently noone have any slideshow presentations introducing > > lyx to the ignorant word user. > > > > i hereby suggest we make one - and perhaps even include it in > > the documentation on lyx.org? > > > > but first i will summon up the pro/con input from the mailing list: > > > > > > pros: > > ===== > > > > * easy to use and stable > > > > * free > > > > * well written and intelligent docs > > > > * focus on content instead of layout > > > > * the printed output is truely typeset giving nicer output > > > > * table of contents, lists, etc are automatic (with no errors > > like word) > > > > * superb bibliographies using bibtex > > > > * cross references are awesome > > > > * cross references (and citition dito) are automatically > > numbered and maintained > > > > * departmental/group standard documents gets lean > > > > * math equations are handled professionally > > > > * journals may provide latex classes of thier own > > > > * it is possible to make pdf files with pdflatex > > > > * uses a text file format allowing for easy and full back > > compatibility > > > > * encourages structured thinking with putting in the section > > and subsection when one starts writing > > > > * tables and graphics within tables is possible > > > > * minitoc is a nice feature > > > > * great at placement of figures etc. no orphans. > > > > * figure placement are superior and true to typesetting > > > > > > cons: > > ===== > > > > * lyx/word exchange is horrible > > > > * the word position in the printed doc is not the same as on > > the screen > > > > * a longer learning curve once you need to move beyond the basics > > > > * you will hit very quickly the ceiling of lyx and have your > > documents full of ERT > > > > * latex is hard to debug. error messages are usually quite > > meaningless > > > > * lyx on windows is still a bit of a challenge > > > > * not very many people uses lyx. you need to bring your own > > laptop with lyx always. > > > > > > > > > > did i miss anything important in the above? > > > > is it not a strong argument that the entire body of > > litterature within the sciences is typeset with latex? (is this true?) > > > > > > > > > > now for the layout of the slideshow (first the > > thinking/brainstorming part - your help is ugently needed!). > > > > i will suggest something around 20 slides and if possible > > examplify all of the above pros. and of couse, one > > should also mention the cons ... > > > > > > 1 cover slide > > > > 1 slide with introduction > > > > 1 slide with tex/latex/lyx history and use > > > > some slides giving a graphical tour just like on lyx.org > > > > a couple of slides showing how to insert citation references > > (this really seem to win peoples hearts) > > > > a couple of slides on how to install lyx > > > > 1 final slide with pros and cons > > > > > > > > suggestions to the composition of this slideshow is welcome - > > and if anyone have ideas to any particular slide, dont hesitate. > > > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > martin > >
