Uwe Stöhr schrieb:
I wrote:

I'm proud to announce the new extended LyX manual about Floats, Notes, Tables, Graphics, and Boxes.

The manual can be downloaded from
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocumentationDevelopment#Extended-Insets

I'm happily surprized that I got so much feedback about this.

Hi Uwe,

Just want to send you a big "THANK YOU" - this is a wonderful document! I especially like your approach of not refraining from falling back to ERT boxes, but providing lots of examples to achieve things with just a little bit of extra LaTeX code.

For people like me, who have started with LyX without any LaTeX background this is just perfect. I really do not mind to have to insert LaTeX snippets for certain formattings and other advanced stuff. The tedious and frustrating part is, however, to find the right snippets and packages and to understand where exactly to insert the ERT boxes and how they interact with the LyX code. Your manual provides exactly this kind of information.

Just two suggestions:

1) An example, how to define the character style (font, size) to be used as default for all cells of a table would be cool.

2) An example, how to modify the in-cell margins (the space between the table grid lines and the actual cell data) would be great as well. IMHO, the LyX/LaTeX defaults waste way to much space here, however, all my attempts to change this have failed so far :-(


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Personal side comment: Having tried a couple of times, I still think that LaTeX really sucks compared to visual tools like Word or Excel if it comes to creating non-trivial tables. This is especially true, if one has to build dense, space-optimized tables which present a huge set of information in as little space as possible e.g. because there is some page-limit. The manual fiddling with column-widths, in-cell line breaks and stuff like that is just painful and the graphical table editor in LyX is not really helpful for this task either, as one has to control the output anyway. Often the LyX-Representation is even contra-intuitive: One has to set very small column width in LyX (which makes the cells in the LyX-Editor almost unreadable and uneditable) to get the optimal width in the DVI/PDF output.

As a consequence, I often end up in designing my tables with Word or Excel and printing them into an EPS file...

There is one exception, though. The LaTeX support for long tables is definitely better. However, I barely need long tables. In most cases, I just want it "to make my table fit on the page".
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Daniel

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