On Saturday 07 March 2009 06:28:34 pm Van Damme Michael wrote:

> On fedora, libxcb is in a separate package, but it has never been updated
> (the installed version is the one that came with fedora 10 originally). I
> have downgraded myx xorg packages to the previously installed version, but
> that still doesn't help.
>
> Michael

Hi Michael,

Now that you upgraded to 1.6.2 and downgraded xorg, it looks like there isn't 
any quickie workaround. That's too bad -- life would have been easier if 
there had been.

If I were in your shoes I'd try to find some situation, ANY situation, in 
which the problem disappears. Once you have a setup that intermittently 
crashes and one than never crashes, I'd exploit the differences to find the 
root cause, or at least narrow it down to the point where the developers 
would find it easy to fix.

I know nothing about Red Hat or YUM, but would it be possible to roll back all 
the updates you listed in your other email? If that were possible, you could 
then see whether the problem still (intermittently) occurs. Either way, it 
would yield valuable information.

Another thing I'd try is working for an hour or so with a trivially simple, 
short document. No figures, nothing but text. Does it crash or not? If not, 
perhaps there's something in the original document that makes crashes more 
likely, and if you can find it, you can:

1) Temporarily take it out of the doc
2) Submit a doc with only that element as an example for the developers.

Also try this: Create a brand new user for your system, put the document in 
that user's home directory, and edit the document as the new user. This could 
rule out or point to some user-specific piece of configuration.

Perhaps there's a clash with a running process. Try temporarily shutting off 
all non-essential processes, then power down and power up, and see whether 
this intermittent fails to appear after a few hours.

Just keep thinking of quick and easy diagnostic tests to rule out parts of the 
system. Sooner or later you'll identify factors that influence the frequency 
of these crashes, and when you do, you'll be very close to either solving it 
yourself, or making it easy for the developers to solve it.

I'm sorry you have to go through this. Intermittents are ugly in the best of 
times, and certainly not welcome when you're working on your thesis.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US

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